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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    and that is why aside from general debating points in wider contexts etc there isnt much use over analsysing calls at leite levels. They are playing to a different variation of pre agreed laws on the whole.

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    Which is also why we should reorganize the forum (my posts passim)

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    Quote Originally Posted by Jz558 View Post
    On a similar thread there were several occasions (I stopped counting) where players in the ruck and on the ground were grabbing the feet/ankles of defenders alongside the ruck to prevent them from being able to participate once the ball emerged. I know holding players in has always been an issue but I don't remember anything so blatant as this before.
    Yes, I've noticed that too in this 6N... seems wrong/odd. On the ground is out of the game, surely?

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    Quote Originally Posted by Jz558 View Post
    On a similar thread there were several occasions (I stopped counting) where players in the ruck and on the ground were grabbing the feet/ankles of defenders alongside the ruck to prevent them from being able to participate once the ball emerged. I know holding players in has always been an issue but I don't remember anything so blatant as this before.
    Luckily this seems to be an elite rugby problem and has not (yet) drifted down to the level I referee at.

    only a matter of time though I suppose.

    tackled players are actively coached to roll on the ground to prevent players contesting for the ball. I gave several penalties for this at the weekend.

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    tackled players are actively coached to roll on the ground to prevent players contesting for the ball. I gave several penalties for this at the weekend.
    Good for you. Pisses me off.

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    Good for you. Pisses me off.

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    I sometimes penalise that , players think I am mad !
    If possible I will warn them the first time and then PK when it happens again

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    I've never reffed in a match (I will concede, I've not reffed many matches), where someone has rolled numerous times (twice or more). The ones who have, have rolled to get the ball on their own side. I'd allow that. But not multiple rolls.

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    For me they can roll back toward their own team not the other way

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    that's souds reasonable to me CR. Though TBH its still smacks of poor contact techniaues/excellent tackling technaiue, and permittig a roll even towards their own goal line to present the ball on their side, means theyt are not acting "immediately" wrt the ball and so allows them to take contact poorly, or in fact fails to reward good defensive technique.

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    It's still preventing a jackalling attempt. If there's a contest, I'll penalise it as playing on the ground (although agreed - generally one warning first, and that's enough).

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    Default Re: [6N] Sco v Fra: Player on ground

    I did my Lv 1 UKCC cert in the summer. The coaches were coaching that you could move with the ball to pivot on your stomach to present the ball back. Is this permitted, if so I see no difference in turning so your facing your support. Surely BOTH of these are preventing competition?

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