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    Default scrum half protection

    A ruck, with various players on the floor and standing around . Attacking scrum half has his hands on the ball which is still within the ruck about to lift and pass, and a member of the opposition comes through the middle (noone there to stop him), and takes the scrum half off the ball. I penalised him. I thought that if there was some air under the ball it would have been fine, but I felt that the scrum half had protection here?

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    Default Re: scrum half protection

    Unless I'm missing something it's play on!

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    Default Re: scrum half protection

    I’d be thinking how did the player come through the middle of the ruck whilst remaining bound and onside. I can’t see how it’s possible so I’d penalise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra1922 View Post
    I’d be thinking how did the player come through the middle of the ruck whilst remaining bound and onside. I can’t see how it’s possible so I’d penalise.
    OP states that there was no body there to stop him..... and does he need to be bound?

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    Default Re: scrum half protection

    Yep, law 15.7.

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    Default Re: scrum half protection

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Yep, law 15.7.
    Which enables him to bind to an opposition player. If the ruck was not over, then the ball was not out of the (ex-)ruck. Play on for me. The opposition must oppose if they want protection of the Law!
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_NL View Post
    Yep, law 15.7.
    Refers to joining a ruck....not to what a player can do subsequently!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chbg View Post
    The opposition must oppose if they want protection of the Law!
    Indeed. ...why bother if the '9' cannot be challenged?

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    Default Re: scrum half protection

    OK so... non-ref head here

    Yes but doesn't the 9 have special protection?

    And, as the 9 isn't bound on, they are not part of the ruck, so tackling him/her before he/she has picked up the ball is not rucking, but is tackling a player without the ball.

    As this seems to be a grey area is this why refs in the 6N manage this by telling players "no, no" when they can see they are about to flatten the 9 and get penalised?

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    Quote Originally Posted by belladonna View Post
    OK so... non-ref head here

    Yes but doesn't the 9 have special protection?

    And, as the 9 isn't bound on, they are not part of the ruck, so tackling him/her before he/she has picked up the ball is not rucking, but is tackling a player without the ball.

    As this seems to be a grey area is this why refs in the 6N manage this by telling players "no, no" when they can see they are about to flatten the 9 and get penalised?
    Sorry... overnight I realised that as the 9 has his/her hands on the ball they are in possession so the second part of my comment isn't valid. ::facepalm::

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