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    Default Re: World Rugby approves law trials to reduce coronavirus risk

    Good point didds.

    This is where clubs could be proactive, by providing mobile phone storage lockers. So all players and subs going on a particular pitch have their phones stored in a confined space/wall mounted locker. That would overcome issues of proximity for the app. While perhaps creating a whole host of liability problems for the club over potential stealing of phones. You can even get ones with charging points which would encourage players to use them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Good point didds.

    This is where clubs could be proactive, by providing mobile phone storage lockers. So all players and subs going on a particular pitch have their phones stored in a confined space/wall mounted locker. That would overcome issues of proximity for the app. While perhaps creating a whole host of liability problems for the club over potential stealing of phones. You can even get ones with charging points which would encourage players to use them.

    yeah _ I'd thought that. But then you have the reverse problem. Blue #18 never even gets on, and spends the entire time at A's ground nowhere near red #1. But his phone has just spent 2 hours in the same locker as red #1. Red#1 gets CV19 and now blue #18 is in 14 days self isolation despite not having a chance to get it, having driven himself to the ground and home, and not even been in proximity of his on field team mates etc ...

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    No I don’t think that will be an issue. The app (which I have no intention to install on my phone) will alert you ( or Blue #18, if you prefer) that contact with an infected person has occurred. The need to self-isolate is only a recommendation, afaik, so the sub can reasonably decide he’s not required to do so.

    Obviously if nobody respects these voluntary measures, fines might be introduced. However I am sure #18 could contest the fine, by explaining what actually happened.
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    Default Re: World Rugby approves law trials to reduce coronavirus risk

    cheers L'Irlandais

    Meanheile back to the laws suggestions etc...

    Maybe form a WR perspective they have now offered ways to protect players [ alleged etc ] so if unions do not take them up WR can say "Nothing to do with us guv. We gacve you options to reduce CV19 ijnfection. Its on your head now"

    ?

    Didds (who likes a minimalist conspiracy theory, just not lizards using 5G to kill humans via CV19 )

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    Apparently the app is fatally flawed. The idea we can use Bluetooth to measure distance, is based on the fact that at somewhere over 10m away the signal fails. However this in no way means that a weaker strength of signal is proof of sufficient distance between you and the infected person. Holds especially true in an urban environment. For the moment the only government rolling out the app is the Chinese one, whose motives are questionable
    ... data collected during the epidemic should be destroyed after it ends or that rules should be put in place on how to manage the data.
    Yeah, right.
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    Default Re: World Rugby approves law trials to reduce coronavirus risk

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    The app (which I have no intention to install on my phone) will alert you ( or Blue #18, if you prefer) that contact with an infected person has occurred. The need to self-isolate is only a recommendation, afaik, so the sub can reasonably decide he’s not required to do so.
    But the software is already in your phone. You are tracked all the time. Just not with an 'official government app'
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    The underlying protocols (that will feed into automated contact tracing apps) are already on Apple/Google devices. The actual app you will need to download and install.

    Software can be used to develop apps that detect when a user has spent time near another user who later tests positive for the virus
    It will make it easier for iPhones and Android phones to detect each other, work across national and regional borders and fix some of the problems that led previous apps to quickly drain a phone’s battery.
    With less than 4% of the population subscribing, big brother is far from keeping tabs on us all. Given the number of police agencies relying on fax machines, don’t be too surprised if most of them haven’t yet availed of an app prereleased last month.
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    Default Re: World Rugby approves law trials to reduce coronavirus risk

    Love the Idea that you guys think that clubs will provide lockers for individuals. Have you never heard of the "Valuables bag" in your neck of the woods? Many clubs don't even have changing rooms that lock
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    Default Re: World Rugby approves law trials to reduce coronavirus risk

    Quote Originally Posted by ctrainor View Post
    Love the Idea that you guys think that clubs will provide lockers for individuals.
    did they/we?

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    Default Re: World Rugby approves law trials to reduce coronavirus risk

    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Apparently the app is fatally flawed. The idea we can use Bluetooth to measure distance, is based on the fact that at somewhere over 10m away the signal fails. However this in no way means that a weaker strength of signal is proof of sufficient distance between you and the infected person. Holds especially true in an urban environment. For the moment the only government rolling out the app is the Chinese one, whose motives are questionable
    Yeah, right.
    Australia has rolled one out

    In any case, for rugby i dont think its necessary anyway. We have teamsheet apps already so we know who played (would be an interesting way to catch someone playing under a false name)

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