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    I think they’ll be coming for you early doors.
    Will you speak out for me?


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    Then they came for me...[/TEXTAREA]It’s a call to speak out. To protest. Be it for #BLM or #LGTB or #Whatever
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    I agree. It is a call to speak out from his personal confession. The topic of protest is not the matter, failing to speak out for others eventually someone come for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kurt Weaver View Post
    Will you speak out for me?
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    NKW, now that all depends on how they pigeonholed you.

    If that pasteur had done a little more protesting and taking to the streets pre-1934, he and his parishioners might have avoided having to eat so much humble pie afterwards. It’s not like Hitler hadn’t already published his manifestos at that point in history.
    Volume 1 of Mein Kampf was published in 1925 and Volume 2 in 1926, they were Bestsellers in Germany in 1933. A lot of revisionism these days about «*Oh we didn’t know what he was up to.*» pinning all the blame on one man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    NKW, now that all depends on how they pigeonholed you.

    If that pasteur had done a little more protesting and taking to the streets pre-1934, he and his parishioners might have avoided having to eat so much humble pie afterwards. It’s not like Hitler hadn’t already published his manifestos at that point in history.
    Volume 1 of Mein Kampf was published in 1925 and Volume 2 in 1926, they were Bestsellers in Germany in 1933. A lot of revisionism these days about «*Oh we didn’t know what he was up to.*» pinning all the blame on one man.
    I think you're trying to inoculate us from the evil.
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    Tullamore Dew, the Afghan Wigs, and many, many strippers - how to get over your ex. How true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    NKW, now that all depends on how they pigeonholed you.
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    Pigeonholed for speaking. Will you speak out for me?

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    NWK,
    If it were for speaking Ohioan (or Ohiospeak, if you prefer) then yes.
    If it were for speaking rubbish, less likely, but still possibly yes.
    For speaking ill about #BLM or #LGBT then definitely not.

    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    I think you're trying to inoculate us from the evil.
    Education, science, & cultural sophistication & advancement do not inoculate us against the evil that lurks within.
    The book Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing and Dying; The Secret Second World War Tapes of German POWs by Sönke Neitzel looks at this indepth. He and Harald Welzer introduce us to the analytical concept of a “frame of reference”. Referenzrahmen des Krieges explain how perceived professionalism can allow soldiers to commit terrible atrocities.

    13 Confirmed cases of journalists killed in Iraq by U.S. Forces show this clearly. They thought they were doing their job, not committing a war crime.
    The list goes on... Among those who died while working as journalists in the past 15 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    NWK,
    If it were for speaking Ohioan (or Ohiospeak, if you prefer) then yes.
    If it were for speaking rubbish, less likely, but still possibly yes.
    For speaking ill about #BLM or #LGBT then definitely not.

    Education, science, & cultural sophistication & advancement do not inoculate us against the evil that lurks within.
    The book Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing and Dying; The Secret Second World War Tapes of German POWs by Sönke Neitzel looks at this indepth. He and Harald Welzer introduce us to the analytical concept of a “frame of reference”. Referenzrahmen des Krieges explain how perceived professionalism can allow soldiers to commit terrible atrocities.

    13 Confirmed cases of journalists killed in Iraq by U.S. Forces show this clearly. They thought they were doing their job, not committing a war crime.
    The list goes on... Among those who died while working as journalists in the past 15 years
    It was a pun on you using pasteur when you meant pastor...
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.
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    Tullamore Dew, the Afghan Wigs, and many, many strippers - how to get over your ex. How true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post

    For speaking ill about #BLM or #LGBT then definitely not.
    Do you think opposing views to #BLM and #LGBT should be silenced?


    I really have not researched either group enough to all variants of each cause. At first google, https://www.hrc.org/ efforts are easier for me to figure out than https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/. But I don't want either silenced. Their approaches are different. For me, the former is more effective.
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    Swing low should not be silenced, but if it is inappropriate a well written explanation and campaign could ask for consideration, allowing the singers to decide.


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