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    Fair enough. I am happy to drop it.
    What annoyed me is the denial that there even is an issue. I haven’t made it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    Fair enough. I am happy to drop it.
    What annoyed me is the denial that there even is an issue. I haven’t made it up.
    Growing up Māori in NZ: My daily experience of racism


    Those genuinely interested in the truth, can recognize the contradiction which exists in present day society. This 18 year old’s Māori background only interests folk when they need his authenticity, otherwise it’s **** off mate you not white.
    No-one, absolutely no-one here has accused you of making things up, and no-one has denied that it is an issue, and a serious one. Those of us lucky enough to live in this country, know this full well!

    Your problem is you are proceeding from a knowledge base that is limited to what you can Google. You don't live here, you've never been here. I've lived here for 60 years - I grew up with Pasifika people, I went to school with them, I have had them as neighbours and friends and workmates. I have learned things about living in a community like this; things you will never learn at Googleversity.
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    I wonder if all the mascots will be taking a knee this weekend ..and whether that is part of why big chief had to go (would not have been a good look)
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    I wonder if all the mascots will be taking a knee this weekend ..and whether that is part of why big chief had to go (would not have been a good look)
    Why are the mascots kneeling?

    Why would it not be a good look for Big Chief to kneel?

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    it looks like only three clubs are doing it - not inc Exeter

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-taking-a-knee

    it's for black lives matter.

    I think it would look odd to be taking part in a gesture like this effectively wearing redface

    (but I guess you could also argue it would look a bit flippant to take part while dressed as a bear / tiger / wasp - ..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post

    it's for black lives matter.

    I think it would look odd to be taking part in a gesture like this effectively wearing redface

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    I think it looks odd that the players only kneel before the game, wouldn't it be more effective if they knelt the entire game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not Kurt Weaver View Post
    [...] wouldn't it be more effective if they knelt the entire game
    Many years ago I went to collect my daughter from her gymnastics club and I was early, so the previous session was still going - aikido. The instructor was demonstrating "knee-walking". It was amazing just how fast he got around.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    "A force that finds its meaning in the cancellation of these difficult ideas hampers the creative spirit of a society and strikes at the complex and diverse nature of its culture," Cave wrote."But this is where we are. We are a culture in transition, and it may be that we are heading toward a more equal society — I don’t know — but what essential values will we forfeit in the process?"






    If we continue down this path, we may end up with a more diverse and fairer society, but at what cost?

    IMO, we will be in danger of becoming a boring, humourless society. Religion will be replaced by Compliance as the opium of the people, humans stripped of their individuality, living in little "ticky-tacky" boxes; a society in which diversity of opinion will not exist - every member afraid to say or do anything for fear of angering the great God Political Correctness, with humans' freedom to express, innovate and be creative having long been sacrificed on the altar of Social Justice.

    We will have a society with no soul!
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    It seems to me that the majority of people complaining about "cancel culture" tend to be white, and slightly older.
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