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    Which is the way forward for the Crusaders too. It’s the imagery which is offensive (and directly related to the 800 year old Wars of religion.)
    Those suggesting otherwise would probably be the first to complain, if the Kuwait Jihadis were a thing, since 1946.
    I think this is an example of First World problems. Native Americans have far more pressing things to worry about, than the rebranding of a club, in a country they will never visit, playing a sport they possibly never heard of.
    (That’s not to say that they weren’t offended by the Washington Redskins name. Since Football is very popular state side.)
    That is significantly different because "redskin" has become a pejorative term, even if it originally wasn't. It would be like calling a team the Alabama N****rs - extremely distasteful and deeply insulting to Black and African-American people everywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'irlandais View Post
    The horseback crusaders wearing medieval attire represent the self same imagery. To say otherwise is mutton dressed up as lamb
    Which is why that imagery has been dropped.



    The horses now wear cover rugs in the colours of the six provincial unions that make up the Crusaders franchise (Tasman, Buller, West Coast, South Canterbury, Mid Canterbury and Canterbury). The riders wear capes in those colours and carry a Crusaders flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
    Which is why that imagery has been dropped.



    The horses now wear cover rugs in the colours of the six provincial unions that make up the Crusaders franchise (Tasman, Buller, West Coast, South Canterbury, Mid Canterbury and Canterbury). The riders wear capes in those colours and carry a Crusaders flag.
    that's what they have done ?? So they are STILL dressed like mediaeval religiously motivated aggressors .. but with different flags!

    that doesn't cut it!

    hardly dropped at all - imagery that still owes everything to 800 year old religious wars !
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    that's what they have done ?? So they are STILL dressed like mediaeval religiously motivated aggressors .. but with different flags!

    that doesn't cut it!

    hardly dropped at all - imagery that still owes everything to 800 year old religious wars !
    "800 year old" So why is that still offensive?
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    "800 year old" So why is that still offensive?

    800 years on, I reckon it's offensive in the 21st century to be glorifying them.
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    900 years - since the first crusade.
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    I'm a big Peter the Hermit fan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Lifeson-Peart View Post
    900 years - since the first crusade.
    The Northern Crusades petered out 600 years ago. Just saying, like.
    The Crusade of Varna, 1443-45

    Also the present conflict in South Sudan has its roots in the British campaigns in Egypt and Sudan between 1882 and 1898. So don’t be so hasty to consign it all to ancient history. Some folks alive to day are still pretty aggrieved. Perhaps the Kiwis are feeling very brave on the other side of the planet, not having met any of these aggrieved.

    Fair enough, you are safe enough, with only inept white supremacists dishing out the violence for now. Things may change buddy, quicker than Canterbury change their name. Just remember not everyone is as inept as those plonkers proved to be. France can vouch for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    800 years on, I reckon it's offensive in the 21st century to be glorifying them.
    I think the link is too tenuous, so it comes close to virtue signalling.
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