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  • Stuart Dickinson

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  • Jonathan Kaplan

    2 18.18%
  • Jaco Peyper

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  • Craig Joubert

    2 18.18%
  • Steve Walsh

    6 54.55%
  • Keith Brown

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    Default Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    Thought what a tremendous weekend it was for rugby refereeing (aside from Keith Brown)

    To start off with

    Stu Dickinson- accused from some media outlets for "auditioning for an orcheatsra" within the last year I have become fond of him. He showed in the Blues Hurricanes game that he is still world class despite being dressed down by POB. What a game he allowed to happened, with world class refereeing of the breakdown. Should have popped a yellow out earlier though.

    Jonathan Kaplan- I saw one half, and I was very impressed, another free flowing game, refereeing the breakdown immaculately, what a match that was.

    Steve Walsh- Had another good match. Got to ask where his cards were kept during that match, I mean because he should have reached for one much earlier.

    Craig Joubert- another good performance, have to ask why he didn't show a card for the Penalty Try offense. And why he allowed far too many scrum infringements. It's a shame about Joubert, he needs to yellow card people a lot more, like in the Bledisloe last year where he dubiously penalised Al Baxter 4 times. Not once threatening the yellow card. Shows he was unsure, hopefully more better things come off Joubert.

    Lyndon Bray- I don't usually praise this guy, but well done. Thank you for having this enforced, and recognizing the problem that rugby is facing. Thank you.

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    I thought Walsh had an excellent game, hope it continues.
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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    What are the criteria you use for refereeing the beakdown, what are you hoping to see?

    Why do you think the YCs were overdue?

    What did Brown do wrong?

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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    Quote Originally Posted by Davet View Post
    What are the criteria you use for refereeing the beakdown, what are you hoping to see?

    Why do you think the YCs were overdue?

    What did Brown do wrong?
    Apologies didn't feel like explaining, would have thought you all share my brilliant mind!! :P

    As for what I want to see, it's free flowing ball with a contest. What everyone wants to see. So the directive issued to have players release the tackled player. I want to see that enforced.

    YC's were overdue because of the huge penalty count, 25 penalties (@North Harbour) and 21 penalties (Suncorp) surely they should have resulted in heavier uses/ earlier uses of cards.

    Brown was inconsistent, I liked his early use of the pocket and his you must comply attitude, however some of his decisions were utter ridiculous. Could be very pedantic at times.

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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    I though Keith Brown had a pretty good game, and that the Sharks were just complaining rather than co-operating.

    When I saw him award the PK that won the game for the Chiefs, I thought at first that he had committed a complete gaffe... until I saw the replay. The Sharks player who picked up the ball after his team-mate knocked on WAS offside. I saw after the first replay, the commentators didn't pick it up until a couple, but Brown saw it at full speed at ground level. Ups for him.
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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    Video clip and comments herehttp://www.sareferees.co.za/laws/law...ps/2230900.htm on SA refs site
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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    Watching that replay, I didn't see a knockon. I couldn't see the number of the one player that knocked it back, it might have been 7 or 1.

    The only person that I saw that might have knocked the ball foward was one of the White players who was one of several with their hands in.

    Untill the kick, which happend as the whistle blew, the ball moved in only one direction and that was foward to White and back to Black.

    So, where was this knockon that Black was offside at?


    Personally, I feel that the change that made picking up a knockon when you were in front of it a penalty a BAD change. It penalizes innocents that turn around, see a ball on the ground and do what is natural, gather it.
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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    Quote Originally Posted by Rit Hinners View Post
    Personally, I feel that the change that made picking up a knockon when you were in front of it a penalty a BAD change. It penalizes innocents that turn around, see a ball on the ground and do what is natural, gather it.
    What change?

    22. Every player is on side but is put off side if he enters a scrummage from his opponents' side or being in a scrummage gets in front of the Ball, or when the ball has been kicked, touched or is being run with by any of his own side behind him (i e between himself and his own goal line).

    23. Every player when offside is out of the game and shall not touch the ball in any case whatever, either in or out of touch or goal, or in any way interrupt or obstruct any player, until he is again on side.

    From the Laws of 1871.
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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    23 - I like this.

    If current it would end the issue about ball in touch putting offside players on-side.

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    Default Re: Refereeing of the breakdown (S14)

    Of the games I saw Walsh was the stand out for me.

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