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    In Scarlets v Ulster last night Lou Reed was penalised for shouting at Andrew Trimble in open play. Trimble was attempting to kick when Reed charged towards him shouting. The incident was flagged by the assistant referee.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugb...sh/8553060.stm

    I think the TJ is saying he flagged to early (anticipating a late tackle) but is this really something that needs to be penalised rather than managed quite a word in the ear.
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    Default Re: Penalty for Shouting: Scarlets v Ulster

    At school I can clearly remember (yes, it was a long time ago!) the U12 captain charging down the field shouting "Get out of my way!". He was penalised under what is now Law 10.4 (m).

    More recently a team defending a lineout in their own 22 always started a barrage of shouting as the opponents tried to call their signals. After the first couple of occasions the referee stopped them with the threat of a penalty. I suggested afterwards that he should have stopped play the first time and made it clear that was an unacceptable tactic.

    What of the player who calls for a pass - from the opposition?

    Overall, it is not something I would want to see on a regular basis. First time up during play, take the next opportunity to warn against it.
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    Default Re: Penalty for Shouting: Scarlets v Ulster

    ah hey ho, soft PK but there again, if the player had kept quiet the he wouldnt have conceded a PK, simples.

    Love the commentary, where he said, he was lucky to not get a yellow...... especially if it was nasty things.

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    Default Re: Penalty for Shouting: Scarlets v Ulster

    What are thoughts on the TJ flagging it. If you were touch judging would you flag it as Foul Play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal1988 View Post
    What are thoughts on the TJ flagging it. If you were touch judging would you flag it as Foul Play.
    He flagged to early it was a mistake, so he gave a decision to cover his arse.

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    Default Re: Penalty for Shouting: Scarlets v Ulster

    Thats what I thought too.
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    Default Re: Penalty for Shouting: Scarlets v Ulster

    Quote Originally Posted by Donal1988 View Post
    Thats what I thought too.
    He might have wanted to get on the TV, did he flag for anything else?

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    Default Re: Penalty for Shouting: Scarlets v Ulster

    or he could just have said "i screwed up. Nothing to report. As you were" rather than a somewhat interesting report!
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    Default Re: Penalty for Shouting: Scarlets v Ulster

    The shouting at LO to prevent call being heard is just silly, as OB says - stop play, tell 'em not to do it, restart.

    Charging at a player and shouting - again just tell them not to be silly.

    Call for an oppo to pass to you.... yeah I can see its a bit cheeky, but caveat passer.

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