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    Default Two Referees?

    Sounds like a good idea ... what do you guys thinks about it?

    This is what Mike thinks about it ... (sorry, that is Blatter)

    http://wc2006.telegraph.co.uk/Docume...9-06E93466EE76

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    Bull***t, why not sort out the problems of diving, players going to ground after the slightest contact AND referee abuse AND calling for cards on an opponent?

    Video evidence could easily be applied in many more cases, why not ADD yellow/red cards as well.

    Excellent game Germany v Italy, do you think players and ref had been briefed differently?
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    i meant 2 refs for rugby ... as well ... what about that?

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    I'm sure it would work very well until they disagreed about something.

    There is so much more to worry about that the extra pair of eyes, in addition to the touch judges, will probably not add much. A miked up team of 3 or 4, experienced in the role will probably not be bettered.

    At this point you can add on video evidence.

    Is this meant for real rugby or just the TV kind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepp Blatter
    Temporary expulsion is used in junior football, for educational purposes, but is not appropriate, we think, for the senior professional game.
    I don't understand the mindset at all. Surely it is obvious that a yellow card is in itself no sanction at all in the CURRENT game? What is the point of a 'punishment' that may apply in one or two games from now? In the final of the World Cup, who cares? If a sin-bin is inappropriate, then a fortiori a red card for two yellows is nonsense.

    Two referees in rugby is interesting, but I am unconvinced. In games where they are used (ice hockey, field hockey, water polo etc) they fit the special circumstances. In hockey the play can move rapidly from one end to the other, and a single referee would be hard pushed to keep up, whereas in rugby that is rarely a real problem. The overlap between the two zones of control would be more awkward in rugby because a lot of the contest happens in mid-field.

    I don't think it is the best use of our resources - at the bottom level you often cannot get one referee let alone two. Why make us struggle even further?

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    For the elite game (whether it be soccer or rugby) the two referee idea is workable as these guys work and train together - but even so currently Refs and TJs have there monents at IRB level !

    For Community Rugby we can't provide a referee for every match, let alone spare two for a single match !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-lucy
    i meant 2 refs for rugby ... as well ... what about that?
    They've already tried this. They did it at Stellenbosch in South Africa a little while ago and then further in AUS. The paper can be accessed here.

    Now, while the paper had positive reviews, speaking to Ed Morrison in Toronto last month, he said a more recent trial at Stellenbosch went horribly. I've also spoken to a referee who was part of the 2-referee system at Stellenbosch and he was very positive- players committed less infringements overall, but the key point was ensuring consistency among referees.

    If we had a French referee and an Italian referee for an England v. Wales match and both referees spoke no English, this would be pretty interesting...

    OB: note that in Ice Hockey (NHL Standards) the 2 referee system is new to the game, and many referees at the high level are pushing for a return to the old 3-man system (1 referee and 2 linesmen).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim White
    Bull***t, why not sort out the problems of diving, players going to ground after the slightest contact AND referee abuse AND calling for cards on an opponent?

    Video evidence could easily be applied in many more cases, why not ADD yellow/red cards as well.

    Excellent game Germany v Italy, do you think players and ref had been briefed differently?
    Possibly. But he has had more games than any other referees (I think yesterday was his fifth) and he had handed out far less cards than his counterparts already.

    The TV commentators here, who have been giving the officials a torrid time, were unanimously fans during and after the game.

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    I have tried the two ref thing at a FIRA-AER U17 stage. The pitch was split down the middle parallel to the touchline and each ref was reponsible for a half. I did not like the set-up. To many clashes like a strong personality referee completly taking over the entire match, or ref's making calls 30 meters from the situation while their collegue was happy with the situation.

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    In each game every player is allowed one major 'co*k-up'. So if the referee makes 29 he's still one up.
    With two refs does that mean we can make 59 co*k-up's and still be in front?

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