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If its anything like the Football Premiership (and I suspect it uses the same model), it was formed and one share was issued to each club, giving...

Can somebody tell me how that came about? Since the National Leagues were first formed, only Bath, Wasps Gloucester, and Leicester have never been...

well... I would respectfully suggest that we are now entering a subjective area whereby potentially the only likely real impact of stopping head...

Sometimes even at grass roots. Some years ago watching a local side (now defunct) I saw a fly half who looked more like a second row kick a drop...

I'm assuming - and could be wrong - that degree of danger correlates to the force of the impact - in that the impact in the ladies game was lower...

there may be nunaces that you are aware of that I'm not, but I'm not seeing a low degree of danger here. its a direct head clash. what higher...

Im presuming this info is not publically available?

Agreed. Somewhere in the continuum in between “deliberate” and “accidental” there is “reckless” and/or “with no consideration for the safety of the...

It seems to me that the new framework undermines the efforts of the game to get rid of the stand up tackle. In this case, and using the framework, no...

Ignoring the RC example, and framework alone I get to PK - low degree of danger, but I wouldn't argue if someone gets to YC. I would like to...

No significant height drop, and blue has run in from a few meters so arguable time to adjust, it wasn't passive in the sense that blue was intending...

Thanks Dickie. So - that deosnt describe what happened in Ita v Eng then? So foul play has occurred. and a card of some colour at least and...

10th April - last weekend.

Last weekend? Women's 6 nations has only been going 2 weeks I think

play on in these situations: In all others, foul play has occurred.

the attached is dated 10th March. What was date of women's game? ...

its accidental in the same vein that the Italian tackle was deemed accidental by the TMO, and agreed with by the ref. Its not accidental that the...

sorry but again no. The point is that just because it is not deliberate does not make it accidental

So after all the above Im still no clearer as to this new framework - namely whether it was in operation, and what the outcome of that framework...

yes. But as i said "Of the RCs Ive seen this season none of them I'd say were a deliberate targetting of the head.". Ive seen no liverpool...

well the ref went back to the scrum fro Italy for an England forward pass that occurred after the collision, so it wasnt even deemed worthy of a PK.

It certainly seems undesirable that the difference between mandated red card and play on is such a fine line of referee judgement. A headbutt, a...

no, it is not that binary. A deliberate head clash would be a Liverpool kiss (are we allowed to say that anymore?). An accidental head clash...

This was my understanding, and happy to adjust my approach .... if we’re all being consistent!

If you follow the flowchart then the degree of force isn’t considered until the point of deciding on sanction, so minimum is PK. If in the ladies...

indeed. there isn't much probably in an U14s match either - but I can't believe head clashes from avoidable upright tackles are just ignored because...

“He’s always high. He’s got clear line of sight to run into the tackle, and he makes direct head contact with the Wasps player… No attempt to dip. I...

if a head clash occurs then yes (IMO). It is reckless. Sanction will then depend on mitigation and/or degree of force

So, again using the flowchart, are we supposed to classify a tackler arriving in an upright position as foul play? Player at fault, is the secondary...

'accidental' is when 2 players inadvertently clash heads - both chasing a ball, getting up off ground, etc I'd go as far as to say that an...