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thepercy
18-11-15, 20:11
Would any of you allow players to wear the below linked soccer headgear?

http://www.amazon.com/Full90-Performance-Soccer-Headgear-Premier/dp/B002DYGMYO

Rushforth
18-11-15, 21:11
Yes and no.

The item seems - from first looks - to be designed to a similar standard to scrum-caps. However, it is clear that the primary purpose is to lessen/spread impacts, which is similar to American Football protection to some (minor) degree.

So although I would not immediately disallow the item to be used personally the first time I saw it, I'd be looking for society guidance after that.

crossref
18-11-15, 21:11
isn't it for heading the ball?

I think the line I'd take with the parents is not 'it's against the rules' but 'these things are really specialised nowadays, to be sure you are safe, you need to wear the correct kit --- you wouldn't wear a bike helmet to ride a horse, would you?'

chbg
18-11-15, 23:11
Your default position to fully protect yourself ought to be: does it have World Rugby approval (Law 4.1g)? If not, you may wish to assess if it could cause injury to either the wearer or opponents? I note that it does not seem to have a chin strap, so could be pulled off quite easily, I assume. If you can re-assure yourself of its safety then you can take the risk on yourself, but do not expect to be supported if you get it wrong. Essentially no, I would not allow it in contact rugby, but then we probably have yet to see this in UK and therefore to come under any pressure.

No, we don't check that every headgear worn has World Rugby approval, but are allowed to assume that if it looks like a scrum cap it probably is.

Taff
19-11-15, 01:11
Would any of you allow players to wear the below linked soccer headgear?
4.1 Additional items of clothing
(g) A player may wear headgear which must bear the World Rugby Approval Mark (Regulation 12).
No.

What's it for anyway? It looks about as useful as a chocolate fireguard.

SimonSmith
19-11-15, 01:11
Would any of you allow players to wear the below linked soccer headgear?

http://www.amazon.com/Full90-Performance-Soccer-Headgear-Premier/dp/B002DYGMYO

No, for two reasons.

One, it doesn't have the WR label.
Two, it isn't on Kurt Weaver's apparel document.

thepercy
19-11-15, 02:11
No, for two reasons.

One, it doesn't have the WR label.
Two, it isn't on Kurt Weaver's apparel document.

I am aware of "the document".

I wanted to make sure I wasn't the only one, who was aware it existed, and read it.

I told a couple girls from one team they could not wear it. Twice actually, once during their league championship, and at a friendly postseason 10s tourney. "But other refs let me wear it". One of the girls I asked not to wear it last year as we'll.

Is there anything you can or should do when players or teams repeatedly show up with illegal equipment? Aside from nicely asking them not to wear it, chatting with their coach, directing them to "the document".

OB..
19-11-15, 02:11
Is there anything you can or should do when players or teams repeatedly show up with illegal equipment? Aside from nicely asking them not to wear it, chatting with their coach, directing them to "the document".Get your society to write formally to the team?

Phil E
19-11-15, 10:11
Kurt Weaver's apparel document.

What's that when it's at home?
Can we see it?

crossref
19-11-15, 10:11
Is there anything you can or should do when players or teams repeatedly show up with illegal equipment? Aside from nicely asking them not to wear it, chatting with their coach, directing them to "the document".

put the document on a website where everyone can read it?
(or perhaps it is already...)

Dan_A
19-11-15, 14:11
I'd be more than a bit concerned that this could be pulled down until it's around the neck and be a potential strangulation danger?

SimonSmith
19-11-15, 14:11
http://cdn1.usarugby.org/documentation/refereeing/protective-equipment-clothing-guidelines.pdf

Phil E
19-11-15, 15:11
I'd be more than a bit concerned that this could be pulled down until it's around the neck and be a potential strangulation danger?

That's what ears are for :biggrin:

Phil E
19-11-15, 15:11
http://cdn1.usarugby.org/documentation/refereeing/protective-equipment-clothing-guidelines.pdf

I am absolutley astounded......................................... ...................a sensible document from USA Rugby :biggrin: (joke)

The only bit I am not sure about is this:


No American Football ‘Screw in’ cleats where the screw in stud consists of multiple materials (i.e. part metal and part plastic).
The screw in stud must be made from EITHER metal or plastic but not both.

I can't find any reference to this in regulation 12.

crossref
19-11-15, 16:11
I'd be more than a bit concerned that this could be pulled down until it's around the neck and be a potential strangulation danger?

I sometimes worry about that for hair bands....

Paule23
20-11-15, 01:11
"But other refs let me wear it".

I love the old "but other refs let me wear it"

I had that from player with a very large knee support with lots of metal hinges in a few weeks ago. He was not very happy when I told him he couldn't play with it on (I was also hinting that if he needs that level of support maybe he shouldn't be playing any way). He took his ball home and refused to start the game, leaving his team down to 14, but after 15 minutes was miraculously fit enough to join the game sans support and last the rest of the match, running strongly throughout.