• West Coast RFU Referee Opportunities 2013



    RugbyRefs.com has once again been contacted by the West Coast RFU www.westcoastrfu.com as they have a shortage of refs at present.

    In a bid to improve the situation they are looking for referees aged 30 & under from the UK, Ireland, & Australia and can assist with working holiday visas, finding employement, and finding accommodation

    The West Coast RFU is very experienced in bringing players to their union, and will use this experience to assist willing volunteers. The West Coast RFU are more than happy to do the same for any refs that would like to come out here for a rugby adventure.


    So if you, or any referees you know are interested in an exiting Kiwi adventure, Adam Gilshnan of the West Coast RFU would love to talk to you. Their season is starting soon, and the club season ends in late July.

    Please note, the West Coast RFU are not in a position to pay referees, as they are an amateur organisation, but if any refs were to come out they'd have a great time, experience a different lifestyle and improve the West Coast's, and their own skills.

    If you think this opportunity would suit you then contact Adam using his email address: adamgilsh@hotmail.com, He'd be happy to phone/skype you to talk more about it.

    Adam is very skilled at getting working holiday visa's etc, and is always keen to help with any assistance, and to share any advice.

    Don't delay, take this opportunity whilst it lasts, it doesn't come along for referees very often.

    Comments 24 Comments
    1. menace's Avatar
      menace -
      What's wrong with refs over 30? Aren't we good enough for the West Coast??
    1. Robert Burns's Avatar
      Robert Burns -
      nope, nor a working holiday visa (Though Aussies don't need one for NZ).
    1. Womble's Avatar
      Womble -
      Shame, was a little interested but can't get away with being 30 lol
    1. menace's Avatar
      menace -
      Quote Originally Posted by Robert Burns View Post
      nope, nor a working holiday visa (Though Aussies don't need one for NZ).
      Fine then...if im not wanted I'll just go back to putting my feet up, sip good red wine and maybe have my butler bring some caviar.
    1. ahibbens's Avatar
      ahibbens -
      Your advertisement is in breach of age discrimination laws and should be removed.
    1. winchesterref's Avatar
      winchesterref -
      Quote Originally Posted by ahibbens View Post
      Your advertisement is in breach of age discrimination laws and should be removed.
      Ha seriously? You're having a laugh

      You have to be no older than 30 for a working holiday visa.
    1. Simon Thomas's Avatar
      Simon Thomas -
      Quote Originally Posted by ahibbens View Post
      Your advertisement is in breach of age discrimination laws and should be removed.
      you may wish to retract your post on two grounds :

      1. New Zealand Working Holiday Visas are only available to 18-30 year olds, for max of 12 months (maybe extended to 23 for UK citizens ) and only if they meet the criteria set out here, such as funds $$$.
      2. This is not a job offer - "Please note, the West Coast RFU are not in a position to pay referees, as they are an amateur organisation"
    1. Ian_Cook's Avatar
      Ian_Cook -
      Quote Originally Posted by ahibbens View Post
      Your advertisement is in breach of age discrimination laws and should be removed.
      You know nothing about NZ Laws, and you make an anonymous proclamation from Berkshire.

      Idiot!
    1. damo's Avatar
      damo -
      He is probably right. If the ad was published in NZ it would likely be illegal. Age discrimination is illegal over a wide variety of things, not just employment, and it certainly includes an opportunity like this one. In any case, "employment" as defined in the HRA includes voluntary work.

      We all know what the ad is getting at, they want to attract people who are eligible to work in NZ, but it is clumsily worded. An Australian can work here at any age, and there are lots of other visas that a person from UK or IRE can get so why restrict it to UK IRE and AUS people under 30?

      Still, who gives a rats? Who are you gonna sue, and for what? And why have I bothered to write this?
    1. Taff's Avatar
      Taff -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
      Quote Originally Posted by ahibbens View Post
      Your advertisement is in breach of age discrimination laws and should be removed.
      You know nothing about NZ Laws, and you make an anonymous proclamation from Berkshire. Idiot!
      And by the way Ahibbens - welcome to the forum.
    1. Ian_Cook's Avatar
      Ian_Cook -
      Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
      And by the way Ahibbens - welcome to the forum.

      Welcome?

      He joined 18 months ago, waited all this time to make his first post, and it was demands about what we post?
    1. OB..'s Avatar
      OB.. -
      I don't know if he is right or not, but why would anyone be persuaded by a blanket assertion with no supporting evidence?
    1. SimonSmith's Avatar
      SimonSmith -
      It is discriminatory, but not all discrimination is illegal.

      If the basis for being able to get into the country and fulfil this role is a particular kind of visa that has an age cap, then specifying that is fine.

      In the US we use phrase "eligible to work in the US without sponsorship" - it means that we don't have to hire people who don't already have the appropriate visa. It's discriminatory. but not illegal
    1. Dixie's Avatar
      Dixie -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ian_Cook View Post
      You know nothing about NZ Laws, and you make an anonymous proclamation from Berkshire.

      Idiot!
      Quote Originally Posted by damo View Post
      He is probably right. If the ad was published in NZ it would likely be illegal.
      And in any event, the ad has been published by this forum in the UK (assuming Robbie still uses UK servers - quite possibly an out of date assumption). Still, Ian has hardly been friendly in his initial post to a newly-outed lurker - In light of Damo's assessment that the ad could be illegal in NZ, I wonder if Alan will receive an apology?
    1. didds's Avatar
      didds -
      Quote Originally Posted by damo View Post
      Still, who gives a rats? Who are you gonna sue, and for what? And why have I bothered to write this?
      s'all right damo - I didn't bother to read it ;-)

      didds
    1. didds's Avatar
      didds -
      Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
      And in any event, the ad has been published by this forum in the UK

      server geography aside it has also potentially been "published" ie seen in every country in the world. So be careful about breaking US law cos under US law AIUI there is a presumption that anything on the internet has probably passed though a US server/router/bit of electric string and thus is open to US law and extradition etc.

      Deep Joy.

      didds
    1. Toby Warren's Avatar
      Toby Warren -
      Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
      It is discriminatory, but not all discrimination is illegal.

      If the basis for being able to get into the country and fulfil this role is a particular kind of visa that has an age cap, then specifying that is fine.

      In the US we use phrase "eligible to work in the US without sponsorship" - it means that we don't have to hire people who don't already have the appropriate visa. It's discriminatory. but not illegal
      The UK is pretty much identical.

      Discrimation can be ( and regularly is) perfectly lawful.
    1. OB..'s Avatar
      OB.. -
      Quote Originally Posted by Toby Warren View Post
      The UK is pretty much identical.

      Discrimation can be ( and regularly is) perfectly lawful.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9MJMOMufY
    1. crossref's Avatar
      crossref -
      UK govt policy in some areas is that discrimination is to be positively encouraged: the present government, and the previous one, are very much in favour of state schools that discriminate on grounds of religion.

      Our local education authority are buidling the first new secondary school in the borough for decades... it's going to be for catholics.
    1. dave_clark -
      Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
      UK govt policy in some areas is that discrimination is to be positively encouraged: the present government, and the previous one, are very much in favour of state schools that discriminate on grounds of religion.

      Our local education authority are buidling the first new secondary school in the borough for decades... it's going to be for catholics.
      yet propose discriminating on the grounds of ability and you get shouted down.

      we're all going to hell in a handcart.
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