Munster Try

[Decorily]

so all in all I think the Law is fine here : the decision just depends on your judgement of the player's intent.

And that's exactly why referees are on the big money....judgement!

 

[Volun-selected]

So it's intentional if he regathers the ball and unintentional if he fails to? Retroactive intent?

"Are you flirting with me?"
"Depends on whether or not you're interested"

Nope, it’s intentional if you determine so. A bit like when Blue throws a pass and Red gets a hand to it and it goes forward. Was it intentional? Your call.

At its simplest, there is an expectation that players must attempt to catch the ball and we should look at 11.3 and 11.4 in that light.

11.4 has the wording “in the act of trying to catch the ball” - so if it looks to you as the player was attempting to catch the ball then it’s not deliberate. (Though was in reasonable is another question.)

If it looks to you like they were not attempting to catch then that means they intentionally tapped the ball forward to get past a defender - it’s a deliberate knock forward under 11.3.

 

[Rich_NL]

I was responding to the earlier post regarding 11.4 only applying to knock-ons.

 

[Harry]

At first glance I thought it looked wrong, BUT, Both players jump to compete for the ball SAFELY the red player gains possession and scores.
Isn't this what we want in the game