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Ref stopping game

So, Clive, talk me through your thinking during the last few seconds of the game...
In hindsight do you think you could have handled it differently....
I'm not sure what he was supposed to do other than what he did. FIFA rules are clear - time is up when time is up. The ball was en route when time was up. So time was up. End of. His only option was to ignore the time rule, allow another second, award the goal then blow for time. Ie not referee the rules. Which surely wasn't am option - how long should he have waited... 1 second, 5 seconds? A minute?
 
Football guidelines are now to allow a bit of breathing to avoid controversial situations like that. Not immediately after a goal is scored, or when someone's heading for an open goal, that sort of thing.
 
I'm not sure what he was supposed to do other than what he did. FIFA rules are clear - time is up when time is up. The ball was en route when time was up. So time was up. End of. His only option was to ignore the time rule, allow another second, award the goal then blow for time. Ie not referee the rules. Which surely wasn't am option - how long should he have waited... 1 second, 5 seconds? A minute?
Referee is sole judge of time. We have that leeway to use common sense. Rugby game and it is hammering it down, the score is 35-3 bonus points are sorted. There is a knock on with 2 seconds on the refs watch. Do you: Have the scrum as the law requires or do you saythat's time guys? Let's be sticklers for the laws. We have a scrum and a prop breaks his neck. Well at least we stuck to the laws..

We are talking in the CT incident "in the act of scoring" probably less than a quater of a second from his hand begining to move to the ball crossing the line. Every one except CT was expecting the goal to be awarded. Both sides clearly did. Thomas was always an unpleasant sod. This was typical of the man.
 
I'm not sure what he was supposed to do other than what he did. FIFA rules are clear - time is up when time is up. The ball was en route when time was up. So time was up. End of. His only option was to ignore the time rule, allow another second, award the goal then blow for time. Ie not referee the rules. Which surely wasn't am option - how long should he have waited... 1 second, 5 seconds? A minute?
He does have discretion though

"The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the referee at the end of the final minute of each half. The additional time may be increased by the referee but not reduced"
 
He does have discretion though

"The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the referee at the end of the final minute of each half. The additional time may be increased by the referee but not reduced"
Was there a 4th official at that time?
 
As I thought. So time was up when he thought it was up. As per the rules/laws. Sole judge etc
 
As I thought. So time was up when he thought it was up. As per the rules/laws. Sole judge etc
Well I don't know if Football has a "sole Judge" clause. But he could easily have used common sense and waited half a second. But CT was too small a man not to make it all about him.
 
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Well I don't know if Football has a "sole Judge" clause. But he could easily have used common sense and waited half a second. But CT was to small a man not to make it all about him.
Well we are talking 1970 and it's already been advised here that there was no 4th official back then, just CT and his watch. Who else would be the judge of time?
 
Well yes but the principle of "sole judge" is a rugby term and was never a football concept to my memory. Yes he was the time keeper. Thereby it was even easier for him to have not played the "Gotcha" card like a prat.
 
I just found this in an article about the incident:

"At the 1978 world cup in Argentina, he officiated the Round 1 match between Brazil and Sweden, in which he infamously blew the whistle for full-time during a play from a corner kick, so that a potential late goal, which would have given Brazil a 2–1 win, could not be scored. He argued that the match time had run out when the kick was taken, although the rules state that an offensive play must run its course before the final whistle can be blown".

I've not looked for the rules / laws for the period. but that seems very logical
 
I just found this in an article about the incident:

"At the 1978 world cup in Argentina, he officiated the Round 1 match between Brazil and Sweden, in which he infamously blew the whistle for full-time during a play from a corner kick, so that a potential late goal, which would have given Brazil a 2–1 win, could not be scored. He argued that the match time had run out when the kick was taken, although the rules state that an offensive play must run its course before the final whistle can be blown".

I've not looked for the rules / laws for the period. but that seems very logical
Fair enough in that case. Though while not following football for decades now, I haven't heard of this ( agreed, sensible) caveat. I suppose it rather beggars the query of whether there is a definition of " offensive play" ?
 

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