didds
Resident Club Coach
and we are back also to OB's "nothing accidental happens at these levels".
And the didds approach "if you screw up - you screwed up".
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And the didds approach "if you screw up - you screwed up".
Dickie E
Referees in Australia
So you think Kolbe intended to restart the game with his kick?
For the record, I disagree with that quote as it is demonstrably untrue
If you think CK was intentionally taking a dropout and restarting the game ... well then there is no refereeing conundrum at all.
But really ? With every single SA player in front of him, he kicked across the pitch and stood and watched what would happen?
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didds
Resident Club Coach
Ive absolutely no idea what Kolbe was intending
What i would sday is when you are a professional you own your actions. And so at that level it just has to be counted as deliberate - cos why would a professional do something so stupid if they didn't know what they were doing? Unless of course they are incompetent ...
didds
Resident Club Coach
Then he is inmcompetent and has to accept the consequences of his ill thought actions.
CF: kikcing off directly short to a player in froint of the kicker at the time of the kick. Why was that done ? Having made that kickoff/restart what was he expecting to happen?
didds
Resident Club Coach
exactly.
So, QED, there is no controversy. If it looked like a duck, and sounded like a duck...
it was an accidental duck
sorry if this changes the topic, but the CK dropkickoff has been clubbed to death - we can all move on.
The Lions tour 26 decision points video will hold up in time, as it's extensive and backed up by good evidence.
The tweet complaining about Wayne Barnes that got him further banned is hilarious to look at now because it was sarcastic.
This is three years ago now, anything further to add to this? I think you'll find he's playing the social media game quite well.
on the contrary, off the top of my head:
Du Pont after France RWC 1/4 final loss.
Joe Schmidt against Lions (2nd test?).
Contemponi against Australia last month
Joe Schmidt against All Blacks last month
All complained directly against the referee in the official post match press conference. As far as I know this is strictly veboten but all unsanctioned (but happy to be wrong here). If any coach/captain gets sanctioned now, it would look silly since the precedent has been set.
but yes, let's go back to that Lions tour, everyone seems to have dropped it but poor old Warren.
www.planetrugby.com
Weird how that is still the perception.how very unlike Rassie!
The Lions tour 26 decision points video will hold up in time, as it's extensive and backed up by good evidence.
The tweet complaining about Wayne Barnes that got him further banned is hilarious to look at now because it was sarcastic.
This is three years ago now, anything further to add to this? I think you'll find he's playing the social media game quite well.
on the contrary, off the top of my head:
Du Pont after France RWC 1/4 final loss.
Joe Schmidt against Lions (2nd test?).
Contemponi against Australia last month
Joe Schmidt against All Blacks last month
All complained directly against the referee in the official post match press conference. As far as I know this is strictly veboten but all unsanctioned (but happy to be wrong here). If any coach/captain gets sanctioned now, it would look silly since the precedent has been set.
but yes, let's go back to that Lions tour, everyone seems to have dropped it but poor old Warren.
Warren Gatland stunningly accuses Rassie Erasmus and Springboks of 'spying' on British and Irish Lions in 2021
Former British and Irish Lions boss Warren Gatland claims that Rassie Erasmus' Springboks spied on the touring team in 2021.
www.planetrugby.com
Jesus. No, I still Erasmus is a complete cunt. He might be a good coach, but apart from I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.sorry if this changes the topic, but the CK dropkickoff has been clubbed to death - we can all move on.
Weird how that is still the perception.
The Lions tour 26 decision points video will hold up in time, as it's extensive and backed up by good evidence.
The tweet complaining about Wayne Barnes that got him further banned is hilarious to look at now because it was sarcastic.
This is three years ago now, anything further to add to this? I think you'll find he's playing the social media game quite well.
on the contrary, off the top of my head:
Du Pont after France RWC 1/4 final loss.
Joe Schmidt against Lions (2nd test?).
Contemponi against Australia last month
Joe Schmidt against All Blacks last month
All complained directly against the referee in the official post match press conference. As far as I know this is strictly veboten but all unsanctioned (but happy to be wrong here). If any coach/captain gets sanctioned now, it would look silly since the precedent has been set.
but yes, let's go back to that Lions tour, everyone seems to have dropped it but poor old Warren.
Warren Gatland stunningly accuses Rassie Erasmus and Springboks of 'spying' on British and Irish Lions in 2021
Former British and Irish Lions boss Warren Gatland claims that Rassie Erasmus' Springboks spied on the touring team in 2021.
didds
Resident Club Coach
It was a joke FFS.sorry if this changes the topic, but the CK dropkickoff has been clubbed to death - we can all move on.
Weird how that is still the perception.
The Lions tour 26 decision points video will hold up in time, as it's extensive and backed up by good evidence.
The tweet complaining about Wayne Barnes that got him further banned is hilarious to look at now because it was sarcastic.
This is three years ago now, anything further to add to this? I think you'll find he's playing the social media game quite well.
on the contrary, off the top of my head:
Du Pont after France RWC 1/4 final loss.
Joe Schmidt against Lions (2nd test?).
Contemponi against Australia last month
Joe Schmidt against All Blacks last month
All complained directly against the referee in the official post match press conference. As far as I know this is strictly veboten but all unsanctioned (but happy to be wrong here). If any coach/captain gets sanctioned now, it would look silly since the precedent has been set.
but yes, let's go back to that Lions tour, everyone seems to have dropped it but poor old Warren.
Warren Gatland stunningly accuses Rassie Erasmus and Springboks of 'spying' on British and Irish Lions in 2021
Former British and Irish Lions boss Warren Gatland claims that Rassie Erasmus' Springboks spied on the touring team in 2021.
And had the square root of fuck all to do with rassie being a twat on a video. FFS.
FFS.
Did I say FFS yet?
indeed, but many a true word spoken in jest. It did open the door nicely for me to show the complete double standards here.
So here's the tweets that got him banned for two matches.
Seems rather tame compared to complaining about the ref in the post match conference or am I missing somerthing?
Rich_NL
Well-known member
I don't think a ref forum is a great place to play off disrespect towards MOs with mock-innocence, much less to hijack threads to do so. At least start your own thread where those who wish to can join in, otherwise Facebook and YouTube comment sections are the place to be.
Shelflife
Referees in Ireland
Well the thing for me is , he correctly restarted the game.
Why would you DK the ball ? why not pass it or punt pass it ?
With SA you simply cant turn your back on them as they are constantly trying new things .
If the other winger ran onto that ball and ran the length of the pitch then everyone would be saying, brilliant restart, caught the Pumas napping.
You cant have it both ways. CK should and probably does know the laws, maybe it was a trial run for it later in the game. Maybe it was a brain fart.
Correct decision for me and kudos to the Pumas player who had the knowledge to let it go to the 5m line.
Why would you DK the ball ? why not pass it or punt pass it ?
With SA you simply cant turn your back on them as they are constantly trying new things .
If the other winger ran onto that ball and ran the length of the pitch then everyone would be saying, brilliant restart, caught the Pumas napping.
You cant have it both ways. CK should and probably does know the laws, maybe it was a trial run for it later in the game. Maybe it was a brain fart.
Correct decision for me and kudos to the Pumas player who had the knowledge to let it go to the 5m line.
What??
Dickie E
Referees in Australia
Well, if you allow the DK pass as a valid restart, then you'd have to ping the punt pass as an incorrectly taken restart. Scrum 5.
You can't have it both ways.
And what if the DK had been caught by the SA player under the posts? What then?