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  1. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    ad hominem attack. I'm out.
  2. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    Yes I am. It is now de rigueur for officials to verbally walk through the process ... direct contact, degree of force, mitigating factors, etc
  3. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    now that the word 'intent' is paramount, the words 'reckless' and 'careless' become irrelevant
  4. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    Did we? I seem to remember plenty of inconsistency between refs & decisions (which of course the framework was designed to address)
  5. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    Interesting read:

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/rugby-just-opened-can-worms-21646047
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    Re: thoughts on this one

    But that's a different situation. That was a dynamic step that was part of his movement towards the ball. The OP is the kicker taking up his stance prior to moving to kick
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    [Ruck] Re: Am I Jackaling Legally? (Confused Player)

    agree with Jarrod.
  8. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    Jasper has been cleared

    https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/wiese-cleared-to-play/
  9. [Tackle] Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    yes, you're quite right. But CR is taking a mid-range YC offence into the lofty heights of heinous wickedness based solely on intent
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    [Ruck] Re: Am I Jackaling Legally? (Confused Player)

    1. sorry, couldn't see much
    2. agree with Jarrod. No clear release is what I would call. But it is a good effort by you and on another day you might have won the penalty
    3. also probably agree...
  11. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    which is interesting because he was quite ready to give Swinton a RC until the TMO talked him out of it
  12. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    Interestingly they're using 9:12

    A player must not physically or verbally abuse anyone. Physical abuse includes, but is not limited to, biting, punching, contact with the eye or eye area, striking...
  13. [Tackle] Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    Intention based decision making? :sad:
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    Re: thoughts on this one

    it means you can change from place kick to drop kick & vice versa
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    Re: thoughts on this one

    Run where? It's a conversion
  16. [Tackle] Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    let's apply some process to this tackle.

    1. was there head contact? No
    2. did the tackler tuck his arm? No
    3. was the kicker tackled in the air? Yes
    4. did he land on his head, neck or...
  17. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    I reckon with 90 seconds to go and the game not in doubt, Carley just wanted to get out of there with no controversy and get onto the XXXX.
  18. Re: 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    this is a still for incident #1. While I appreciate stills can be deceiving, certainly worth a look by the blazers

    424242434244

    Noting too that this contact wasn't just an incidental part of a...
  19. 2 incidents - Wallabies v Springboks 18/9/21

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhFaVdzH_Hw

    2 incidents that hopefully will be reviewed by citing officer.

    1. in the 50th minute, Gold #10 suffers an eye injury which may have been foul play by...
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    Re: thoughts on this one

    I'm looking at this from a slightly different angle.

    I agree that the sideways step wasn't an approach to kick and the defenders were in error to charge when they did.

    However, the kicker...
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    thoughts on this one

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/126417527/npc-canterbury-hold-on-to-controversial-victory-after-waikato-miss-late-conversion
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    Re: an idea from her-indoors

    yeah, fair enough. Brain duly turned off.
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    Re: an idea from her-indoors

    so what is it about rugby that makes ice hockey & water polo concepts ridiculous?
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    Re: an idea from her-indoors

    so we've never done it that way so we should never do it that way? Somewhat non-progressive


    as per OP. Try would bring the player back on
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    Re: an idea from her-indoors

    It's consistent in the same way that a petty criminal either pays a fine or does some time.

    Once your opponent has benefited from your transgression by scoring a try, your time is deemed to have...
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