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    [Line out] Re: Offside at LO - change in law?

    RETIRING FROM A RUCK, MAUL, SCRUM OR LINEOUT

    9. A player who is offside at a ruck, maul, scrum or lineout remains offside, even after the ruck, maul, scrum or lineout has ended.
    10. The player...
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    [Line out] Re: Offside at LO - change in law?

    put onside by the opposition
  3. Re: Thank God! At last Nigel Owens enforces (Caterpillar) Law - Use it

    Or, I suppose kicking the ball would also be played away from ruck. Knocking would also.
  4. Re: Thank God! At last Nigel Owens enforces (Caterpillar) Law - Use it

    Decorily The correct, well played punchline is "Don't be ridiculous, God is not a referee"
  5. Re: Thank God! At last Nigel Owens enforces (Caterpillar) Law - Use it

    The I think the definition of "play the ball" is in Reg 17 along with "use it", and "chargedown".
  6. [Law] Re: Why isn't this pre binding penalised ?

    "Flying" would be airborne, so in that regard it would be hard to get three bound players airborne w/o an airfoil of somekind.
  7. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    I understand the custom, which may be incorrect, but that custom does not protect the receiving/catching player from a previously offside player smashing them to dust. If fact, the custom further...
  8. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    If it doesn't go forward it is not a charge down, it is played and does not negate 10m law.
    A "proper" charge down does negate the 10m because there is not 10m of existance.
  9. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    Eventually that charge down describe in red, will come down and also forward.
  10. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    But I have some evidence, when looking for evidence it is not always good evidence.

    For instance, circumstantial evidence is not great in court of law, but it is a "kind of evidence"
  11. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    It is a reference. What is your reference? , "Everybody knows"

    It called a charge"down", hence what happens to the ball as down.

    No good, but what r u hanging ur hat upon?
  12. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    Unfortunately a charge down is ( ) parathesized and described in law 11
  13. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    kicks can be made in line drive fashion, apex hard to determine
  14. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    That is what I concluded and what I think what is written in law, BUT I do not think others on rugbyrefs agree.


    EDIT maybe we are not similar, I would say the chargedown has to occur (forward...
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    [In-goal] Re: Try: Yes or No? Or?

    worst haircut ever, what is going on in the valleys?

    no try, bad haircut
  16. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    TW was your post a response to CTPE request for help?
  17. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    That is the rub.

    According to the applicable law and not to tradition, the 10m law applies

    4.An offside player may be penalised, if that player:

    a.Interferes with play; or

    b. Moves...
  18. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    11 Knock-on or throw forward
    KNOCK-ON
    5.The ball is not knocked-on, and play continues, if.

    a. A player knocks the ball forward immediately after an opponent has kicked it (charge down).
    ...
  19. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    Me also. I think you know you last 2 paragraphs are an appeal to tradition.

    I've said this before, rugby is not a place to find brain surgeons. Maybe we f ed this up and have been wrong all...
  20. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    I cannot find the law that indicates once the ball is in flight, there is no longer 10m law. The 10m law is an exception from the 2 areas of law we have already quoted. The only remote...
  21. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    Considered, but not enough to unclog my brain. The ball, despite being tipped, is going to come down or be caught and this will establish the 10m line. As far as I know there is no time...
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    Re: the Chiefs

    What US city is a hotbed for positive race relations?

    The Mayor is involved presumably since the stadium is within city limits and was built (most NFL stadiums) using tax payer money. But you are...
  23. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    I pretty sure the law you posted still says 10.4c still applies in regard to an offside player.

    A big yep to the second part as "far back as I can remember". Maybe we were wrong, or at least...
  24. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    from my previous post, there is as close as we get to a definition in law 11 as in my previous post. until today, I would have allowed the try and i think that is status quo, but it ain't law
  25. [Law] Re: Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

    My bold in your quote for emphasis

    Now I think you are not correct. a charge down is not in the definitions, however, it is well described an specific in law 11 Knock on:

    5. The ball is not...
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