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Maybe not a nuance...but put a ball in a players hands and they can 'legally' target an opposing players head with a shoulder! !

If you need a line on the pitch for this then you shouldn't be refereeing! !

And PTs are to ensure foul play doesn't stop a score, which it didn't.[/QUOTE]

Or a 'score' in a more advantageous position!

Link to video please so we can comment on this specific incident.


However before penalising players for (presumably accidental ) head contact with their own team mates how about making...

I know this has been 'done to death ' but can you expand on your comments?

"...no explanation as to what that is." ...what do you mean?

That wouldn't be a good call.

I thought it was a bit harsh in the context of what is being allowed.
However it is supposedly one of the focus points this season.

Rather than asking " is the referee allowed to change a decision in this way" try asking 'why not'!
The referee is acknowledged as being the sole judge of fact! Surely that is enough!

I don't think judging it based on distance is appropriate.
I think the context is more relevant.

For me it's not clear that he tapped it over a defender and therefore I'm happy to say he was legal.
If it's shown that he did in fact tap it over the defender and gain an advantage by doing so then...

Apologies but my original post did not post as I had intended/written!!

I have no issue whatsoever with the card.

I was considering whether if the Blue player had made contact/tackled the...

Bottom line as I see it is World Rugby don't want competition for the ball in that scenario. Get the ball away from the breakdown and get on with it. Have to say I agree to some extent as things...

I'm not clear as to what your point is...maybe it's that 2nd bottle of wine!

I disagree with your argument.

For me it is not just a case of, for instance, an accidental offside where a player cannot avoid touching /playing a ball, but rather, as has previously been...

Yes and yes.
The lineout MUST be taken if the ball is kicked directly to touch.

Welcome to the asylum!

No disrespect intended to Treadmore.
Apologies if taken as so.

However it seems to me to be the equivalent to a fight breaking out in the bar after the game and asking should the referee bring...

https://youtu.be/kkz-9FI9M1s

45 secs in.
Is common sense going to prevail?

It's not the end until the referee determines it so...irrelevant whether the ball is dead and time is expired!

No need to play silly buggers...keep the debate constructive!

Again not necessarily!

If the last action of a players hand, after 'juggling', is to slap/bat the ball backwards then that is considered a knock on even though the ball didn't go forward and the...

Like it or not it is a ruck....or at least closer to a ruck than a lot of what passes as a ruck these days! !
Are there technically illegal actions occurring....probably. But the same applies as any...

Seem to remember that....personally I wouldn't have an issue with it provided it wasn't blatantly designed to waste time in which case I would deal with it as I would any other time wasting!
Can't...

OK. ..was wondering whether the try could possibly have been scored in a more advantageous position.

Yes....