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    [6N] Re: Rolling on the ground - Owen Farrell

    Dallaglio claimed nearly every decision that went against England was harsh. He might as well have been wearing an eye-patch in the commentary box. I wouldn't pay much heed to him.

    Yeah,...
  2. Thread: France Vs Wales

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    Re: France Vs Wales

    There are two aspects to look at: the management and 'getting the decisions right', and by in large there's not a lot of difference in the latter at international level. In this case, most of the...
  3. Thread: Jalibert non-try

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    [6N] Re: Jalibert non-try

    I remember it being explicitly legal - being compared to kicking the ball out of a player's hands in in goal being explicitly illegal.

    But as you said above, ripping the ball isn't an offence,...
  4. Thread: Jalibert non-try

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    [6N] Re: Jalibert non-try

    About 28 minutes on the match clock
  5. Thread: Jalibert non-try

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    [6N] Jalibert non-try

    I came across this article suggesting a PT should have been awarded when Jalibert didn't score since Slade knocked the ball out of his hands.

    Is this a law change I've missed or is this article a...
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    [Law] Re: Dupont try FR v EN 2021 6 Nats

    It never used to.

    I can remember a clip in a society meeting (from a sevens match, IIRC) when a player batted a bobbling ball over an opponent, volleyball style, and re-gathered it with the...
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    [Law] Re: Dupont try FR v EN 2021 6 Nats

    I think you've answered your own question here. The offence is a deliberate knock forward as opposed to knock on.

    IMO the ref should have asked himself whether he thought it was a deliberate...
  8. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    The imprecise answer would be "give England enough time". The precise answer would put a number of seconds on that! But whatever number that is, I reckon it'd be less than 9 (as per the Squidge...
  9. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    I think it has become over used - particularly at the top level. In this case, I don't see what was to gain by asking Farrell to speak to his team. They were just giving away too many assorted...
  10. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    I don't think it's a time-saving thing. In 99% of rugby you have one person whose whole job is to take the tee on and off. None of this coach bringing it on crap.
    I suspect it's to discourage...
  11. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Personally I've never come across the two whistles. Either a whistle for time on then verbal and signalled restart, or (less frequently) a verbal time on then whistle and signal (more often for a...
  12. Thread: Sonja drama

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    Re: Sonja drama

    For me, I'd term it 'not very good' rather than 'awful' but otherwise agree with Rich.

    It was the sort of thing you'd expect from ITV, rather than the BBC.

    No attempt to gain any insight,...
  13. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Sounds just like any meeting when a video is shown! Completely miss the point of the video and focus on something else ;)

    Which I think is the point you're trying to make.
  14. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    You might have just demonstrated that it isn't clear!

    The ball touching the ground or another player applies to all three cases - which I think is actually pretty clear from the laws (there's a...
  15. Thread: Sonja drama

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    Re: Sonja drama

    It's counterproductive, too.

    IMO she didn't do very well with the interviews (and FWIW I thought Farrell actually handled it pretty well) but now there is zero focus on the interview and whether...
  16. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Watching it again this morning, maybe the TMO thought his right hand was always in contact with the ball until it hit his hip, then went straight down and not forward. I stress the maybe.

    As...
  17. [Law] Re: Reviewing the Video with the TMO and other officials.

    I think a mixture of this and expecting Wales to kick at goal.

    There wasn't much for Farrell to explain to his team and another ref may well have said "Captain, that's too many penalties. Sort...
  18. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Well they were both speaking English.

    I don't know how good both their English is, but maybe they weren't as confident explaining what they were looking at as if they were speaking French. I'm...
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    Re: 5 worst ref decision

    I think it's a wider question.

    Rugby has always prided itself on the respect shown to referees and if you have former referees openly saying current referees are wrong then there is a risk of...
  20. [Law] Re: Reviewing the Video with the TMO and other officials.

    This is the key thing to me - no, it probably* wasn't handled brilliantly, but England had infringed, weren't switched on (some of them, anyway - May had managed to get back into position before time...
  21. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Interesting parallels with Wayne Barnes's handling of the O'Mahoney RC.

    After reviewing the footage, Barnes said something like "okay, so what are the facts? His shoulder has made contact......
  22. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    True I’ve never seen it called in a lineout, but always enforced when a player kicks the ball forward and sometimes when a player flaps the ball back
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    being pedantic, as you say above the ball going backwards off a player does not negate the first knock forward, so where the ball hits the ground doesnít dictate whether it was an infringement or...
  24. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    His leg has nowt to do with it. It went forward off his hand and he didnít gather it.

    The only argument I can see for it not being a knock on is that he was in possession until it hit his calf....
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    Re: Disgraceful disciplinary decision

    French disciplinary panel?
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