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    [Law] Re: England v France - 24/4/2921

    I dont really understand why, at the time of the rewrite, World Rugby needed to insist that there were no changes. Who would have cared if they'd said we've abreviated the law book and there are some...
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    [Law] Re: England v France - 24/4/2921

    The danger here is that by sneaking changes back in that may or may not have been intentional in 2017 we risk a scenario where you look a proper Charlie having made a decision during a game,...
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    [Law] Re: England v France - 24/4/2921

    Interestingly Crossref recorded the change in his spreadsheet of the differences between the laws pre/post 2017 rewrite.

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    [Law] Re: England v France - 24/4/2921

    I'd agree that it's not very well written but I cant imagine that that the put in would go to the side who incorrectly took the kick but stranger things have happened. The one that makes me laugh is...
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    [Law] Re: England v France - 24/4/2921

    20.2 - Kick taken from the wrong place - retake
    20.11- Incorrectly taken kick - scrum.
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    [Law] Re: England v France - 24/4/2921

    I cant really work out what the 9 was protesting about. Looking at it again though the ref would be within her rights to award the scrum under 20.11 although I'm not sure thats equitable. I'd be...
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    [Law] Re: England v France - 24/4/2921

    The first incident was, as you say, marginal but in my opinion didnt go past the horizontal so play on. Essentially though the tackler wasnt in control of the outcome. If the England 8 twists once...
  8. [Tackle] Re: Head clash, with force, "accidental" = no card? women's 6N

    At this stage I'm no clearer on what the outcome should be when I see a similar incident during one of my games. To be clear, prior to the incident and discussion, I would have applied the 'tackler...
  9. [Tackle] Re: Head clash, with force, "accidental" = no card? women's 6N

    It seems to me that the new framework undermines the efforts of the game to get rid of the stand up tackle. In this case, and using the framework, no foul play has occured therefore play-on. The...
  10. Thread: 6.11.A

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    [In-goal] Re: 6.11.A

    At my level it's much more likely to be a discarded tackle bag, drinks bottle holder, dog walker, dog without walker, stray child or other team taking a short cut to their own pitch.
  11. Thread: 6.11.A

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    [In-goal] Re: 6.11.A

    Thats how I read the law. Just struck me as being not particularly fair if, through no fault of the ball carrier, he/she concedes an attacking scrum.
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    [Law] Re: Clarification 1 "021

    Same reply as Crossref - I would allow the replacement in all 4 cases (as I would also for the YC scenarios).
  13. Thread: 6.11.A

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    [In-goal] Re: 6.11.A

    Looking at the second part of that law,

    6.11.b. If the ball is in possession of a defending player, the referee awards a touch down where the contact took place

    Am I right in thinking then...
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    [Law] Re: Time to take a penalty.

    This has got to be the basis of the way forward. Reward positive play and find a way to encourage teams to commit more players to the breakdown to decongest other areas of the pitch:

    Maul (open...
  15. Thread: Jalibert non-try

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    [6N] Re: Jalibert non-try

    Nothing wrong with Slades actions that I can see, he knocks the ball, backwards out of Jalibert's hands and that's fine for me.

    I can see the point he is trying to make regarding the tackle but I...
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    Re: Fitness during lockdown

    I've done far more exercise in the last year than than at any time since my 20s, am drinking about half what I was before lockdown and haven't lost a pound. Can't work it out. On the upside though I...
  17. Re: England v France massive refereeing controversy

    Ha ha, good to see someone has a sense of humour. Didn't he get swapped out of a European game in France after he received threats following his performance in the England v France fixture last year?
  18. Re: England v France massive refereeing controversy

    Still plenty of time for those positive covid tests to emerge yet and scupper the game altogether. Meanwhile several BBC reporters are found bound and gagged behind the England team hotel and no one...
  19. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    All penalties need to be taken without delay. I think a quick penalty is only referred to in the laws with reference to it being taken before the opposition have had time to retire the full distance...
  20. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    [QUOTE=Camquin;373361]Why should he give the offending time to get ready?

    Because by asking the Captain of the offending team to have a word with his players the referee has actively made the...
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    [Law] Re: Jumping or Diving Clarification required

    The difficulty with over defining this is that you may not like the results. Looking at the replay it seems to me that at no point do May's legs lead his head and arms (as defined in the article as a...
  22. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    As ever, once the minutiae is examined, it is possible to argue almost anything. What I am sure about though is if PG blows that for a knock on, very little would have been said subsequently and...
  23. Thread: touch after pk

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    [Law] Re: touch after pk

    Crikey, my memory is even worse than I thought. I do remember playing during the period where they "legalised supporting" but soon after changed to allow full lifting on the grounds that no one could...
  24. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    In this instance I think the law is pretty clear and a rewrite would not do anything to help. The current law list 3 occasions when a knock-on occurs:



    When a player loses possession of the...
  25. Thread: touch after pk

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    [Law] Re: touch after pk

    It does seem counterintuitive but no more so than a game in which senior coaches think their best chance of winning is by having less possession. I suspect the change was brought about because having...
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