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Perhaps the difference is
.. a player who leaps into the air to gain possession of a ball
(Cannot be tackled)
.. a player, in possession of the ball, who leaps into the air with it
(Can be...

craig joubert agrees with Nigel Owens
https://www.sareferees.com/ref-replies/duty-ref-463--craig-joubert/2829594/

But the from the question itself, and the answer, we can deduce that in the...

we have plenty of referees over 60.. go find your boots ! :)

Hi Koolfork - welcome to the forum !

Don't you whistle time on and time off?
It's not (only) for the benefit of a timekeeper it's more for the benefit of the players and coaches (and indeed the...

but for you it's exactly the same !

Indeed I asked you

and you said


ie same thing
indeed if they are two different things then logically you need two different whistles!

well that's very odd, Phil, as only a couple of posts earlier you said that you DIDN'T whistle time on / to restart play. Indeed you suggested that no one did apart from me!




so you do it...

it's a really silly Law
1 - in the pro game it enables the bench to force a decision to kick that should be left to the players
2- in the amateur game are we really saying that any well...

there you go

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there you go again

I am talking about when time is off. (eg for an injury or, indeed, for a team warning) so obviosuly then they can't quick tap until time is on again

(for most PK time is not off, and they can...

well --

1 - whistle for time on (that's a short blast and touching-WATCH-signal). This informs all 30 players + physios and water carriers that time is on

2 - wait a second or two ...

agreed. So much is different in the community game.

happily it works both ways : the players know that you are on your own and can't see absolutely everything and are more tolerant of...

sigh....

so you reckon WR would agree with NO video?
I do think WR should clarify this. Hopefully they will.

But no rush : if I was WR I'd wait a little bit and perhaps include it in the next general...

yes, but bottom line : do you think PG's game management was correct? or faulty?

WB didn't directly address the LRZ case, but my understanding is that was a knock on, as was not purposefully batted back, like Spiderman did


So WB and NO would agree on LRZ.

The difference...

plot thickens, as i have heard from a reliable, well connected source, that the WB version is the correct one!

But then that was specifically drawing on English authorities - could there be a...

I sort of agree - but the direction that WR are going in general is the reverse - decision trees / logic diagrams (as in high tackles, collisions in the air etc) .

the SAREFs response, and WB and...

Yes the article discusses that, in some detail
Also brings in the interview with Farrell a day or two before , while in camp, and discusses that , in that interview as well Farrell initial dead...

Have you read it ? Its analytical and he makes some interesting points

It would never be good management to restart the game when one team is in a huddle . You would lose credibility and lose trust of the players.

There are other ways to deal with timewasting (if...

Paywall, but good analysis of that interview
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sonja-mclaughlan-asked-the-right-questions-she-should-carry-on-and-ignore-critics-8cp0xrzf8

Correct refereeing is
.. first whistle, brief peep = time on
.. make mark and second whiste = PK

That's the way it always used to be done. (And I still do)
"Wait for my second whistle"
...

well, here's one authority - the take from SA Referees :
- first they offer definitions of diving and jumping
- then they decide that May's was a jump
- therefore they penalise it.
...

i don't think it's *ever* good refereeing to start the game when one team is in a huddle. Nothing good is going to come from that. It's NOT the way you would deal with a team being too slow or...

Of course he made mistake