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    Re: Another stand-up tackle

    Thanks Phil
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    Re: Another stand-up tackle

    HIA ?

    I'm not sure what is in the elite referee protocols these days, but is it in the referee's purview to send a player for an HIA?
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    Re: Another stand-up tackle

    Twitter user Steve Pierce said it for me

    "Great tackle no head contact arms wrapped ... nothing to see here move along"
  4. [Law] Re: When and why the intentional knock-on rule was added to the rugby laws?

    Try swinging your arm at a player to knock the ball out, make a slight misjudgment, and clatter the ball carrier in the head, making direct contact, with force? What call do you think the T04 will...
  5. [Law] Re: When and why the intentional knock-on rule was added to the rugby laws?

    Agree.

    If a tackler knocks the ball free in a tackle, that is a bonus for him. But, if that is what he is trying to do, he risks either missing the tackle, or injuring himself or his opponent,...
  6. [Law] Re: When and why the intentional knock-on rule was added to the rugby laws?

    Almost certainly that is because the player doing the knocking-on is offside.

    I've seen top level referees say "play on" when an onside opponent has done that (usually when the scrum-half is a...
  7. [Law] Re: When and why the intentional knock-on rule was added to the rugby laws?

    Generally, when the ball is knocked from an opponents grasp, that is never ruled as deliberate.
  8. [Law] Re: When and why the intentional knock-on rule was added to the rugby laws?

    Lineout, opposition throw
  9. [Law] Re: When and why the intentional knock-on rule was added to the rugby laws?

    FWIW, I think a clue for referees is "hard hands" v "soft hands"... or "at the ball" v "to the ball"

    An example of "hard hands" is a player who reactively jams an arm out "at the ball" in order to...
  10. Thread: PK moves

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    Re: PK moves

    That link doesn't take me to the video you are talking about... it take me to a bunch of other videos
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    Re: 5 worst ref decision

    This was 2007... there was no "on field" decision. The referee went straight to the TMO who was correct.

    https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/4/285x214/22740_1.jpg

    1. Clear and obvious...
  12. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Look in the definitions... I quoted that in my post.

    https://www.world.rugby/the-game/laws/search/?term=Knock-on
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    [In-goal] Re: PK after the try - with a difference

    Yeah, that was my thought as well.

    I think that is game over... the law allows for the PK at the next restart - there is a restart after half time, but not after full time.
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    [In-goal] Re: PK after the try - with a difference

    It can't be a PT because it doesn't meet the criteria. A try had already been awarded so there was no foul play that prevented a probable try, nor was there any foul play that prevented the probable...
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    [In-goal] PK after the try - with a difference

    Saw this while standing on the sideline watching a preseason club game last night....

    Player does an Arlo* on the tryscorer after half time has expired, resulting in an immediate YC.

    After...
  16. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    As always with this type of argument, its flawed. The game starts in a different place depending on whether the try is awarded or not, not to mention that the mindset of the players will be...
  17. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Knock-on: When a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the...
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    Re: Biggar Taken in Air?

    It doesn't quite quite work like that. The gist of the basketball rule is that a jumping player has the right to a clear landing zone if the landing zone was clear at the moment he jumps.

    If the...
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    Re: Biggar Taken in Air?

    That's not the way the Laws are written or applied, but I agree 100% with your sentiment.

    It annoys me no end that a player is allowed to act with total disregard for the safety of others, and the...
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    Re: knock on in touch

    Yes, that was my mistake. 2b should have been a line-out/scrum option to black because the Gold player effectively knocked the ball forward into touch.

    For those who believe that a knock can only...
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    Re: knock on in touch

    Logically (as I see it)
    1. Kick in General play
    a. Ball knocked forward and next touched the ground in the FoP.... scrum Black
    b. Ball knocked forward and next touched the ground in touch,...
  22. [Line out] Re: Frances first try against Ireland - Should we have gone back for a lineout?

    This one

    LAW 18: TOUCH OR TOUCH-IN-GOAL

    1. The ball is in touch or touch-in-goal when :

    a. The ball or ball-carrier touches the touchline, touch-in-goal line or anything
    beyond.

    b....
  23. [Line out] Re: Frances first try against Ireland - Should we have gone back for a lineout?

    All well and good if that someone is an AR and not a member of the home club.
  24. [Line out] Re: Frances first try against Ireland - Should we have gone back for a lineout?

    That was my point... its simpler to just use the plane only to determine where the ball went into touch, not if the ball went into touch

    This would also have the benefit making things a lot easier...
  25. [Line out] Re: Frances first try against Ireland - Should we have gone back for a lineout?

    I think crossref is proposing that the plane of touch should always be irrelevant to whether or not the ball is in touch, and should only be used to determined where the LoT is, i.e. the ball should...
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