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    Re: Wal v Aus: Coach Verbally Attacks Officials

    This incident reminded me of a lecture I got from an advisor once about the difference between a bad call and a wrong call.

    There are some things that as a referee you're expected to get right,...
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    [In-goal] Re: Goal line DO vs Scrum 5

    In the OP I was thinking that if you're not sure if it was grounded or held up then that meant a stoppage for "any other reason not covered in law" so it got me wondering.
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    [In-goal] Goal line DO vs Scrum 5

    The new law around the goal line drop out for the ball being held up got me wondering how people are refereeing it.

    When I was refereeing, I'd want to see the ball being grounded in goal. If I...
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    Re: Springboks v Lions

    It was Hugo Southwell I was thinking of (in 2011).

    Can't find the video, but did come across this one (at 40 seconds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32LJBXOPB_A

    Perfect example of what...
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    Re: Springboks v Lions

    I must be getting my incidents mixed up. There was one in a Wales-Scotland game about 10 years ago when Lee Byrne jumped for a ball and a scotsman (I thought it was one of the Evans brothers, but 10...
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    Re: Springboks v Lions

    A few years ago now, but Thom Evans's career was ended (and IIRC he was penalised himself) from just such an incident.
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    Re: Springboks v Lions

    Really shocking display all round? Handled diplomatically? This is sarcasm, right?

    The only shocking thing has been Erasmus's rants!

    As Mark says, in any game both coaches could produce a...
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    [6N] Re: Rolling on the ground - Owen Farrell

    Dallaglio claimed nearly every decision that went against England was harsh. He might as well have been wearing an eye-patch in the commentary box. I wouldn't pay much heed to him.

    Yeah,...
  9. Thread: France Vs Wales

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    Re: France Vs Wales

    There are two aspects to look at: the management and 'getting the decisions right', and by in large there's not a lot of difference in the latter at international level. In this case, most of the...
  10. Thread: Jalibert non-try

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    [6N] Re: Jalibert non-try

    I remember it being explicitly legal - being compared to kicking the ball out of a player's hands in in goal being explicitly illegal.

    But as you said above, ripping the ball isn't an offence,...
  11. Thread: Jalibert non-try

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    [6N] Re: Jalibert non-try

    About 28 minutes on the match clock
  12. Thread: Jalibert non-try

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    [6N] Jalibert non-try

    I came across this article suggesting a PT should have been awarded when Jalibert didn't score since Slade knocked the ball out of his hands.

    Is this a law change I've missed or is this article a...
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    [Law] Re: Dupont try FR v EN 2021 6 Nats

    It never used to.

    I can remember a clip in a society meeting (from a sevens match, IIRC) when a player batted a bobbling ball over an opponent, volleyball style, and re-gathered it with the...
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    [Law] Re: Dupont try FR v EN 2021 6 Nats

    I think you've answered your own question here. The offence is a deliberate knock forward as opposed to knock on.

    IMO the ref should have asked himself whether he thought it was a deliberate...
  15. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    The imprecise answer would be "give England enough time". The precise answer would put a number of seconds on that! But whatever number that is, I reckon it'd be less than 9 (as per the Squidge...
  16. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    I think it has become over used - particularly at the top level. In this case, I don't see what was to gain by asking Farrell to speak to his team. They were just giving away too many assorted...
  17. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    I don't think it's a time-saving thing. In 99% of rugby you have one person whose whole job is to take the tee on and off. None of this coach bringing it on crap.
    I suspect it's to discourage...
  18. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Personally I've never come across the two whistles. Either a whistle for time on then verbal and signalled restart, or (less frequently) a verbal time on then whistle and signal (more often for a...
  19. Thread: Sonja drama

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    Re: Sonja drama

    For me, I'd term it 'not very good' rather than 'awful' but otherwise agree with Rich.

    It was the sort of thing you'd expect from ITV, rather than the BBC.

    No attempt to gain any insight,...
  20. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Sounds just like any meeting when a video is shown! Completely miss the point of the video and focus on something else ;)

    Which I think is the point you're trying to make.
  21. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    You might have just demonstrated that it isn't clear!

    The ball touching the ground or another player applies to all three cases - which I think is actually pretty clear from the laws (there's a...
  22. Thread: Sonja drama

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    Re: Sonja drama

    It's counterproductive, too.

    IMO she didn't do very well with the interviews (and FWIW I thought Farrell actually handled it pretty well) but now there is zero focus on the interview and whether...
  23. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Watching it again this morning, maybe the TMO thought his right hand was always in contact with the ball until it hit his hip, then went straight down and not forward. I stress the maybe.

    As...
  24. [Law] Re: Reviewing the Video with the TMO and other officials.

    I think a mixture of this and expecting Wales to kick at goal.

    There wasn't much for Farrell to explain to his team and another ref may well have said "Captain, that's too many penalties. Sort...
  25. Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Well they were both speaking English.

    I don't know how good both their English is, but maybe they weren't as confident explaining what they were looking at as if they were speaking French. I'm...
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