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Correct refereeing is
.. first whistle, brief peep = time on
.. make mark and second whiste = PK

That's the way it always used to be done. (And I still do)
"Wait for my second whistle"
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well, here's one authority - the take from SA Referees :
- first they offer definitions of diving and jumping
- then they decide that May's was a jump
- therefore they penalise it.
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i don't think it's *ever* good refereeing to start the game when one team is in a huddle. Nothing good is going to come from that. It's NOT the way you would deal with a team being too slow or...

Of course he made mistake

I really think the presence of water carriers is a red herriing .. at elite level water carriers and medixs are routinely tolerated all over the pitch

Certainly it cannot be the case the offending...

Biggar is such a great player, isn't he? time and again he shows possesses all the attributes for a rugby player : physical strength and stamina, fantastic skills, leadership and - important in...

that is really very interesting - thanks.

definitely have a lot less sympathy for England having watched that.

I am now thinking that the factors contributing to the try are maybe
- 40%...

Hope so

Out on the park this Saturday somewhere in Wales ... (or this september whenever we it is we are allowed back)

Red 10, in the middle of the field juggles the ball and bats the ball backwards...

a jump is where you are endeavouring to land on your feet
a dive for a try is when you are endeavouring to land on your forearms, with the ball touching the ground before you do .

So May was...

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anyone know any others?

to be specific- the thread question was the juggle-and-bat-back scenario

interestingly the majority opinion here (forcefully expressed) was the NO view (knock on) but I suspect it is going to be...

that's the way I understand it - throw forward is relative to the player, knock on is judged relative to the ground

this is another principle that needs to be spelled out better in the Laws

Well, I would say you don't judge knock on wrt to the player's motion. knock-on is judged with respect to the ground.

"Barnsey? Nigel, here, WTF?"

So basically that's the nub of the criticism, right ?
Line of questions was reasonable, but once straight batted then she should have moved on more quickly.

Fair enough.

I think control may be more important - than possession. The first bobble is loss of control, and if the first bobble was forward, need to regain control

WB doesn't quite address the specific Wales incident does he , but I thought WB video meant it was a KO (as uncontrolled all the way down )

You haven't specially mentioned the AWJ interview before ? What did you think was particularly stupid about it ?

what a mess.

I would rather doubt that Nigel's content is officially vetted for Laws accuracy, by WR's official Laws dept. I just don't think WR operates that way, I would suspect NO's videos...

Well - Nigel Owens' whistle watch is actually an official WR publication, so presumably what he says is aligned to WR views

NO explains it here -

https://youtu.be/HZKf0_cycBc?t=277

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she was asking a question that she know her interviewees have been forbidden to answer.
asking that sort of question can be pretty effective journalism... If journalists don't ask about referee...

which is fine, don't completely agree, but we are in the ball park now. There was nothing egregious or 'appalling' about it

For me
- these were the main talking points, she was perfectly...

I think that WR would only make ruling if they think the Law is unclear. They ae not going to get involved in whether the ball hit his finger or his knee, or went down or forwards

Perhaps WB...