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    Re: Springboks v Lions

    Is there a requirement to isolate though ?
    I am thinking they may he restricted to someone who is already there
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    Re: Springboks v Lions

    WR made a massive error, and it's totally unfair to MJ.

    They have Mathieu Raynal and Ben Okeef both there, as they are reffing #2 and #3 - one of them should be TMO, and somone else come in as AR.
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    TMO isnt about C&O (when it is
    C&O you don't need aTMO )

    TMO is like hawk eye, it's endeavouring to be precisely correct . Toenail in touch is touch, a tiny bit offside is offside
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    I don't think the community game is really impacted .
    We have no replays, no TMO, few spectators, many of the people present will have had a worse view than the ref did, everyone knows the ref can...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    this is true - but the converse is that for vast majority of incidents where previously we might have had different refs using diff judgement and arriving at diff decisions ..... now we have a very...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    but it also says 'the act of foul play was secondary' which seems to suggest it was foul play (but not RC)

    tbh, though, I don't think we can analyse that statement too much - it doesn't make...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    Did they ? Or did they say it wasn't a RC
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    I get this
    But when I have been to a tribunal (not often!) They start by asking if the player is guilty or not and insist on the answer beginning with No or Yes

    Then the process continues
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    [Law] Re: Scrum question

    In a law exam it's the FK to the oppo

    in a real game on Saturday. .ffs play on


    (If you think there is a chance it could happen again, have a word with the flanker and the prop and say...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    But I think that would all go to mitigation and lower sanction

    If the player accepts it is a RC offence, then a panel does not normally consider whether it really was, they just go straight to...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    if the player admits the charge, then I don't see how a panel can conclude 'no case to answer' who presented the case? why would the case be presented?

    Normally if a player admits a charge, the...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    4 match officials and the player himself! said it was a RC, and the judiciary dudes overturn them
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    In pro rugby RC decisions are made by the framework, using the video, and don't really pay any attention to whether the victim is injured or not. It's not a factor, is it?

    plenty of RC given...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    people have talked about whether the French playere should be YC for simulating.

    Here's what the LAw says

    Unfair play

    A player must not:

    Do anything that may lead the match officials to...
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    Re: That's done it for me. Goodbye rugby I'm out

    I wondered about that

    What did the medics do then?
    Sounds like they conducted some sort of assessment to see if he needed an assessment ?

    I would like to see the protocol for that curious...
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    Re: Global Law Trials

    I would say so
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    Re: Global Law Trials

    Some other oddities arising from the curious wording used in the laws

    blue kick into red in goal
    .. red ground ball = GLDO
    .. red kick ball over DBL = 22mDO

    Blue charge down a red clearance...
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    Re: These goal line dropouts

    5m scrums will still happen when
    .. defenders knock on in goal (but not when attackers do)
    .. defenders carry ball back in goal and make it dead in any way

    Logic would suggest they would also be...
  19. Thread: Reaching Out

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    [In-goal] Re: Reaching Out

    Like the force of the tackle actually knocked him a bit closer ?
    So now he can reach the line

    I reckon yes
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    Re: These goal line dropouts

    But then why B where a goal line DO replaces a 22m DO ?
    And also why haven't they replaced all 5m scrums ? We will still have them

    This is what I mean, don't see their logic
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    Re: Protocol awarding PT

    OK but what do you reckon - would it be helpful to have a signal for a PT that you could give on the spot - without having to move away from the action ?
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    Re: Protocol awarding PT

    i started with my solution .. to have a different signal !

    so exactly as you say : moving away under the posts is not a great signal, so you have find another way to communicate (alas a way that...
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    Re: Protocol awarding PT

    because if he doesn't run off immediately, the attacking side are left with the impression that there isn't going to be a PT and then they are even more stoked about the foul play ?

    this is the...
  24. Thread: Reaching Out

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    [In-goal] Re: Reaching Out

    need to see the video but I would think yes
    as long as they don't crawl/wriggle/belly creep along the ground and then reach
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    These goal line dropouts

    So they are puzzling me - hard to understand the logic of them


    Play is restarted with a goal line drop-out when:

    A) The ball is played or taken into in-goal by an attacking player and is...
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