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    Quote Originally Posted by Chogan View Post
    I still can't understand how he restarted the game. What happened to:
    "Due to the tackle we were going to restart with a penalty to green. However, 6 green then took the law into his own hands and for that the penalty is being reversed. At no point do you take the law into your own hands."
    I agree. But in this situation so close to the Leicester line, reversing the penalty would give Bath the opportunity to score from a PK and benefit from a dangerous high tackle.

    Get a red card, and score 3 points doesn't seem right.

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    I agree. But in this situation so close to the Leicester line, reversing the penalty would give Bath the opportunity to score from a PK and benefit from a dangerous high tackle.

    Get a red card, and score 3 points doesn't seem right.
    But that's the punishment for Leicester starting a brawl. The area of the pitch is unfortunate but it follows one of the most basic principles of discipline in rugby.
    If you look hard enough, there'll be a penalty in there somewhere.

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    Fantastic refereeing and TMO'ing.

    Brilliantly handled by Tim Wigglesworth, taking his time, asking the right questions.

    Also, compliments must also go to the commentators, thought about their opinions, and what had happened, and knew that it should be (and ultimately was) two red cards.

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    I was pleased to see that the referee did NOT automatically reverse the penalty, but stuck with the more serious offence.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    I was pleased to see that the referee did NOT automatically reverse the penalty, but stuck with the more serious offence.
    How did you come to that conclusion? (the more serious offence)
    If you look hard enough, there'll be a penalty in there somewhere.

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    The one that had the potential to be more serious.

    Had the puncher ran in and king hit white 12, it would probably have been a different outcome.
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    Agree this is what I meant by the Wayne Barnes route.

    In a Leicester v ?Quins game Leicester Prop head butted oppo - opposite number punches him twice.

    'We are sticking with the PK for the headbutt as that is the more serious offence'.

    I think that the ESPN commentors show the way to SKY. Ben Kay I find actually very considered - his descriptions of what's happening in the tight are excellent.

    I also think he called the original offence correctly i.e. really bad but unintetional - then goes on to explain 'but he has a duty of care to the guy he's tackling'

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    Now we're looking at degrees of punch / high tackle.
    Ask this. Which is worse, a high tackle or a punch to the head?

    Agree with Toby. Ben Kay is the best in the NH. Keeps a lid on Healey too. (Well as much as is possible)
    If you look hard enough, there'll be a penalty in there somewhere.

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    The one that left the bloke spark out for +/- 5 minutes!

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    I was impressed with the use of the phrase "duty of care" - it shows that Kay understands the framework that the law is trying to establish, as opposed to the literal wording of the law alone.

    You could almost hear Healey's brain trying to process the "where the hell do I go now? He just made an unarguable point".
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