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    Default IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    So, as predicted formal release from IRB dispensing with Yes 9. Any ideas on what constitutes non-verbal communication?

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    Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:18:46 +0000
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    Subject: IRB Media Release: IRB Further Empowers Referees at Scrums

    www.irb.com 7 January 2014
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    IRB Further Empowers Referees at Scrums
    In a minor revision to the current protocol surrounding the ongoing scrum engagement global trial, the International Rugby Board has confirmed that referees will use non-verbal communication to indicate to the scrum-half when the ball can be thrown into the scrum.
    Up to now as part of the scrum trial, the referee has told the scrum-half that the scrum is ready for the put-in by the use of the phrase “yes nine”. But following an initial review, including consultation with national coaches and referee managers, it has been decided that referees will adopt a non-verbal communication to scrum-halves for the introduction of the ball. This is in accordance with the relevant law (20.5 Throwing the Ball Into the Scrum).
    The change is effective immediately and will include this week’s Heineken Cup and Amlin Challenge Cup matches in the northern hemisphere (January 9-12). It will also include the next rounds of other elite competitions, including the Top 14 in France (January 24), Aviva Premiership in England (February 7-9) and the Rabo Direct Pro 12 in other parts of Europe (February 7-9).
    As with the original protocol, it is up to individual Unions to decide whether this change will be adopted at levels below elite Rugby.
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    James Fitzgerald, IRB Media Manager, +353 86 1723 570, email james.fitzgerald@irb.com
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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    here's the public version

    http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazo...eferees+scrums

    NB -
    As with the original protocol, it is up to individual Unions to decide whether this change will be adopted at levels below elite Rugby.
    Last edited by crossref; 07-01-14 at 15:01.

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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    I think it's a good idea but I just know it's gonna be a pain in the arse come Saturday.
    Fine at elite level but the majority of spectators, coaches and players are gonna overlook the fact that at amateur level it's up to the governing unions or societies to implement it.
    If you look hard enough, there'll be a penalty in there somewhere.

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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    they say that

    In a minor revision to the current protocol surrounding the ongoing scrum engagement global trial
    but it's funny as saying 'yes-9' is not even in the IRB protocol

    http://www.irblaws.com/index.php?domain=11&amendment=21
    Last edited by crossref; 07-01-14 at 15:01.

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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    As with the original protocol, it is up to individual Unions to decide whether this change will be adopted at levels below elite Rugby.

    Yesterday it was "at all levels".

    So it's business as usual with CBSY9&S until we get told differently by our society or the WRU then.

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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Taff View Post
    As with the original protocol, it is up to individual Unions to decide whether this change will be adopted at levels below elite Rugby.

    Yesterday it was "at all levels".

    So it's business as usual with CBSY9&S until we get told differently by our society or the WRU then.
    yesterday's announcement was on planet rugby, today is the IRB.
    we have a society meeting on Thursday, so no doubt this will be mentioned!

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    I don't see the problem. At my level I do nothing different until my society or the WRU tells me. The PMB tells the players what to expect during the game. The Spectators are secondary.

    As per the other thread on "yes 9", the ref and the SHs will agree on a signal. So it's up to you.
    The tenet that a referee is the sole arbiter of fact and law, allows me to be wrong, not stupid.

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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    [QUOTE=Dave Sherwin;262843] Any ideas on what constitutes non-verbal communication?

    I do believe the standard is, "wink, wink, nudge, nudge".

    Know what I mean

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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    This is in accordance with the relevant law (20.5 Throwing the Ball Into the Scrum).

    Not exactly!

    From the IRB site: Law 20.5 "No Delay. As soon as the front rows have come together, the scrum half must throw in the ball without delay. The scrum half must throw in the ball when told to do so by the referee. The scrum half must throw in the ball from the side of the scrum first chosen."

    20.5 Needs an update.

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    This is in accordance with the relevant law (20.5 Throwing the Ball Into the Scrum).

    Not exactly!

    From the IRB site: Law 20.5 "No Delay. As soon as the front rows have come together, the scrum half must throw in the ball without delay. The scrum half must throw in the ball when told to do so by the referee. The scrum half must throw in the ball from the side of the scrum first chosen."

    20.5 Needs an update.

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    Default Re: IRB dispenses with Yes 9

    indeed, it's the opposite of the first sentence (and in line with the second).
    But this is a trial, by defintion a trial of new Laws will contrary to the current Laws. It's just odd for the IRB to say otherwise.

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