It metions other stuff to. You just seem to want a fight.
Unplayable Maul - scrum needed?
Open play - freedom to go to ground to gather the ball
Ruck - ball on ground & players over the ball
any Other ? ie tackle / lineout / kickoff
Unplayable open play - scrum needed.
Unplayable ruck - scrum needed.
It metions other stuff to. You just seem to want a fight.
Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Hello, its you, again, rushing in from a distance to intervene !![]()
Let me explain more carefully . ..
From the description in the OP alone my view is categorical .. it's a ruck . This seems to be a view shared by almost everyone
But the poll asks me to choose between a playable ruck, and an unplayable ruck .. but there is not enough information in the OP to make that distinction . To tell if the ruck is playable I would need to see it
(I voted for playable ruck )
Last edited by crossref; 27-02-18 at 12:02.
Removed so not to cause offence.
Amazing! Overwhelming agreement that it's a ruck! And, the rarest of events, a ruck with all players on their feet (as per the OP)!
Now comes the tricky part: What if . . . .
. . the players collapse over the ball (without fault) and it becomes unplayable. Who gets the scrum feed? (Why am I getting this feeling we've been here before?)
If we all agree it's now a ruck, it should go to the team moving forward at the time when the ball became unplayable, if no-one is moving forward then it's the attacking team gets the put in.
Well, you're sort of right ElPablo. The scrum goes to:
- the side moving forward before the ball became unplayable or failing that
- the side moving forward before the Ruck was formed or failing even that
- the attacking side - BTW this is the team in the opposition half.
You just missed out the 2nd point.
Right, I'm going to say it. I really don't like the new version of the lawbook.
15.19. The ruck ends when the ball becomes unplayable. If the referee decides that the ball will probably not emerge within a reasonable time, a scrum is awarded.
Last edited by Taff; 27-02-18 at 23:02.
It is in the new law book Taff is the "scrum" section (page 90). The chart is a good idea but it would help if the expanation was also in the "ruck" section.
Indeed.
I was drawing up charts to use as a quick reminder of who 's scrum / where is the penalty Mark / options etc is it. So Full marks to WR for getting that biit addressed. However, to omit the detail in the main body is just daft.
Last edited by Marc Wakeham; 28-02-18 at 08:02.
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