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    Default Re: South African schoolboy rugby viral tackle video

    I was asking ‘what if’ he had been and ended up making that sort of contact during a charge down. I didn’t mean to suggest that he was trying that on this occasion. Sorry for any confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Tell the professionals that!
    Hence the 'supposed'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balones View Post
    I was asking ‘what if’ he had been and ended up making that sort of contact during a charge down. I didn’t mean to suggest that he was trying that on this occasion. Sorry for any confusion.
    Sorry for jumping to conclusions.

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    If the SH had not been off the ground his head would have been taken off by that.

    Anyway Pietersea pleaded guilty and expressed remorse. Or at least he couldn't find an expert witness' evidence to dispute the charge.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chbg View Post
    If the SH had not been off the ground his head would have been taken off by that.

    Anyway Pietersea pleaded guilty and expressed remorse. Or at least he couldn't find an expert witness' evidence to dispute the charge.
    He obviously got good advice. "If you fight and lose, oit's 24 weeks. Cop a plea and 'only' get 12"

    You can argue the legality all you like. But the 24 weeks is just ridiuclous as a starting point
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    Quote Originally Posted by chbg View Post
    If the SH had not been off the ground his head would have been taken off by that.

    Anyway Pietersea pleaded guilty and expressed remorse. Or at least he couldn't find an expert witness' evidence to dispute the charge.

    If, if, if.... To my knowledge we don't ref by ifs. IF he had made head contact then absolutely, red card offence and a ban. But he didn't, he tackled a player in the act of kicking. The ball had literally just left the foot so we generally consider the timing for that fine. The height for me, was fine... the point of contact was (just) below the shoulder line. The only issue is the severity of the hit and the size difference. And for me there's nothing written in the Laws that justifies either a ban or a RC in the first instance. If you judge it to be high, that's fine... if you judge it to be massively late, again that's fine, then yes RC for this. But I don't.

    Are we going to start insisting that tackles are made gently now? Does that mean the runners need to collide gently too? Sure the act of creating a collision is a dangerous act, so let's start Red carding everyone. We've had a kick in the face overturned and this border line tackle (timing/height), given a lengthy ban. Just seems nuts to me that I can put my foot up and make contact with a player's face but not make a very hard tackle.

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    Law 9.11 Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others


    As already explained, individually, you may be correct, no one component is against a specific law, but the sum of all the parts, the height, the level of control, the kickers position, the force of the hit and any other factors you want to include make it dangerous - which is very clearly covered in law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Law 9.11 Players must not do anything that is reckless or dangerous to others


    As already explained, individually, you may be correct, no one component is against a specific law, but the sum of all the parts, the height, the level of control, the kickers position, the force of the hit and any other factors you want to include make it dangerous - which is very clearly covered in law.

    Fair enough, so we're gonna red card ball carriers for running into tacklers too?? After all they do run at speed and can't possibly be in control. So this is also against 9.11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arabcheif View Post
    Fair enough, so we're gonna red card ball carriers for running into tacklers too?? After all they do run at speed and can't possibly be in control. So this is also against 9.11.

    Either I'm missing something obvious or you're being daft at this point? I may not be the most agile person in the world, and my brakes definitely are insufficient for my mass, but generally I feel in control whilst running

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