Why isn't this offisde under 10m law ?

[Marc Wakeham]

If I've got it right. If there is a charge down attempt the 10 mtr rule does not apply. Nor does Offiside in open play.


HOWEVER,

If the ball is merely "touched in flight." Open play offside does not apply but the 10 metre rules does.

[Not Kurt Weaver]

If I've got it right. If there is a charge down attempt the 10 mtr rule does not apply. Nor does Offiside in open play.


HOWEVER,

If the ball is merely "touched in flight." Open play offside does not apply but the 10 metre rules does.

That is what I concluded and what I think what is written in law, BUT I do not think others on rugbyrefs agree.


EDIT maybe we are not similar, I would say the chargedown has to occur (forward and/or downward) not merely an attempt

[crossref]

If I've got it right. If there is a charge down attempt the 10 mtr rule does not apply. Nor does Offiside in open play.


HOWEVER,

If the ball is merely "touched in flight." Open play offside does not apply but the 10 metre rules does.

I think that is correct .. but it leads the question of what is the definition of a chargedown , and how is a charge down any different from a touch in flight ?

My view is that any sort of touch just after the kick is a chargedown, so 10m law doesn't apply
But when the ball is fumbled on landing, then 10m law still applies

[chbg]

I'm sure that someone will ask you to define "just after".

If they don't, I will!

Perhaps an alternative rule of thumb could be: touched in the first half of its initial trajectory = treat as a charge-down; touched as it is dropping from its flight apex = 10m offside law applies.

[Not Kurt Weaver]

I'm sure that someone will ask you to define "just after".

If they don't, I will!

Perhaps an alternative rule of thumb could be: touched in the first half of its initial trajectory = treat as a charge-down; touched as it is dropping from its flight apex = 10m offside law applies.

kicks can be made in line drive fashion, apex hard to determine

[Not Kurt Weaver]

I think that is correct .. but it leads the question of what is the definition of a chargedown , and how is a charge down any different from a touch in flight ?

Unfortunately a charge down is ( ) parathesized and described in law 11

[Ian_Cook]

How about?

1. When a player attempts to block a kick and makes contact with the ball, that is a charge down, Offside Laws (including 10M) do not apply.

2. When a player attempts to catch the ball from a kick and makes contact with the ball but fails to catch , that is touched in flight (10M Law applies).

[Phil E]

Wasn't there some kind of clarification many moons ago that touching the ball on its way UP was a charge down, and touching it on its way DOWN wasn't?

[crossref]

How about?

1. When a player attempts to block a kick and makes contact with the ball, that is a charge down, Offside Laws (including 10M) do not apply.

2. When a player attempts to catch the ball from a kick and makes contact with the ball but fails to catch , that is touched in flight (10M Law applies).

I would be tempted to say "block or deflect" .. to cover the sort of action in this thread

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Unfortunately a charge down is ( ) parathesized and described in law 11

Only in the context of not being a knock on if it goes forward

[Not Kurt Weaver]

Only in the context of not being a knock on if it goes forward

It is a reference. What is your reference? , "Everybody knows"

It called a charge"down", hence what happens to the ball as down.

No good, but what r u hanging ur hat upon?