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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    Not necessarily true!
    Read the definition of a knock-on. It's very clear.

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    [QUOTE=irishref;372871
    It's very clear.[/QUOTE]

    If only!!!

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    If only!!!
    Red player tries to catch the ball, juggles it 3 times between his hands and the final action is it goes forwards from his left hand and hits the ground. Decision?

    Red player tries to catch the ball, juggles it 3 times between his hands and the final action is it goes backwards from his left hand and hits the ground. Decision?

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by irishref View Post
    Red player tries to catch the ball, juggles it 3 times between his hands and the final action is it goes forwards from his left hand and hits the ground. Decision?

    Red player tries to catch the ball, juggles it 3 times between his hands and the final action is it goes backwards from his left hand and hits the ground. Decision?
    Knock on
    Play on

    But that’s not what happened, he just knocked it forward, half a juggle at best

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by irishref View Post
    Red player tries to catch the ball, juggles it 3 times between his hands and the final action is it goes forwards from his left hand and hits the ground. Decision?

    Red player tries to catch the ball, juggles it 3 times between his hands and the final action is it goes backwards from his left hand and hits the ground. Decision?
    As I said .....if only it was as straightforward as you imply.
    Each scenario would have to be assessed and decision made based on the type of action being performed.

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by irishref View Post
    Read the definition of a knock-on. It's very clear.
    So what about a player that deliberately knocks a ball forward over a defenders head then regathers. Knock on?

    (ball never hits the ground or an oppo)

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    Watching it live, my immediate reaction to the first try is that England were expecting a shot at goal, which was as large a contributory factor to the score as anything.

    The second one - if I were Eddie Jones, I would be annoyed. If I were Pivac I would be annoyed if it were disallowed.

    I thought he was refereeing to the assessment sheet. Technically accurate, but not great management. Certainly if I had been coaching a junior referee who had that kind of a game we would be chatting about cards and preventive measures. Itoje should have gone for his personal accumulation, and possibly a second English player for team accumulation. If we are to talk about the effect of taking one or more of the scores off, we have to ask how many points England could have shipped in 20 minutes playing with 14...
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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by Gracie View Post
    Nothing about the ball hitting the ground in the World Rugby law 11.2

    https://www.world.rugby/the-game/law...ighlight=Knock
    Look in the definitions... I quoted that in my post.

    https://www.world.rugby/the-game/law...?term=Knock-on
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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebra1922 View Post
    So what about a player that deliberately knocks a ball forward over a defenders head then regathers. Knock on?

    (ball never hits the ground or an oppo)
    Throw forward! Deliberate PK!

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Unsurprisingly, Nigel has a view:

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