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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    joel jutge did an interview in the french press, where reported the PG thought it was a mistake --- make of that what you will


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    Critiqué par les Anglais après deux décisions contestables lors de la première mi-temps face au pays de Galles, Pascal Gaüzère a fait un mea culpa auprès du patron des arbitres Joël Jutge, après avoir revisionné les images dimanche matin.
    He trudg’d along unknowing what he sought,
    And whistled as he went, for want of thought.
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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    The more I think about it, the first management mistake was allowing the water carriers onto the field.

    "Please go away Water Carriers, this is not a time to bring water on"

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    These are linked though, water carriers came on because time was off.. time was off because OF had been asked to have a word ..

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    The more I think about it, the first management mistake was allowing the water carriers onto the field.

    "Please go away Water Carriers, this is not a time to bring water on"
    There is a general rule that water carriers can only come on at time off so they grab that opportunity whenever it presents itself. In fact, the sideline officials probably told them they could go on as soon as they heard the "time off" call.
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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Interesting that in the Ire/Eng today in the 48th minute approx on game clock the Irish were denied a try because a juggle and knock back was deemed a knock-on. Perhaps giving more credence to the Nigel Owen video?

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    I thought the same - but the knock on was actually given against green 17- the player behind him who the ball bounced forward off as it went backwards from green 4 ( or 5) after the juggle.
    Last edited by Pedro; 20-03-21 at 19:03. Reason: My spelling is crap

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro View Post
    I thought the same - but the knock on was actually given against green 17- the player behind him who the ball bounced forward off as it went backwards from green 4 ( or 5) after the juggle.
    That’s what I thought but that doesn’t appear to be what the referee actually said.

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by Balones View Post
    That’s what I thought but that doesn’t appear to be what the referee actually said.
    It was what the TMO stated.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    I tell the 9, or whoever that I’ll remake the mark and then you can go. Then whistle, arm out, maybe secondary signals and make mark - allows me to create a little breathing room if needed between whistle and mark

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    Default Re: Wales vs Eng - Knock on and Time back on after asking captain to speak to players

    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    I tell the 9, or whoever that I’ll remake the mark and then you can go. Then whistle, arm out, maybe secondary signals and make mark - allows me to create a little breathing room if needed between whistle and mark
    This thread has developed a life of its own. However, with regards to penalties (and I recognise here that you may only be talking about the time off/time on scenario), there is no need as far as I know for a referee to make a physical mark, although I agree it is very common. The mark for a penalty is simply the correct place from which the penalty should be taken. Mnny attempts at quick penalties are oly called back because the players seem unaware of the law, eg penalties to be taken on the 15m line.

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