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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    So The media's policy would seems to be, "never mind the truth stoke the fire".

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    in this particular case the truth was : PG made two big mistakes, that cost England 14 points, but WR have imposed an iron grip on players and coaches that they are not allowed to discuss referee errors, on pain of being fined. As Eddie pointed out.

    If journalists (because of the gag) give up even asking about refereeing errors, then WR would have succeeded in gagging the press as well, and would no doubt be delighted.

    It's only 'goading' because players are being invited to break a gag. A gag that is ridiculous in the first place .
    Without the gag it wouldn't be goading, it would just be asking a question.


    England captains and coaches should be free to discuss reffing errors, and trusted to discuss them calmly and without going off on one. Not gagged.
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    You miss the point. Once the question was asked and answered. Move on. She did not, she kept on about it. The fact that she did not get the reply she wanted is not the point.

    There were ways shoe could have invited replies. That is if she'd been clever enough. Sadly she was not clever enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    Yes. And has been for years/decades. Another reason why these interviews are a total nonsense.

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    Default Re: Sonja drama

    Or maybe " we" should stop the stupid interviews completely seeing as the best they will ever provide is a list of banalties and at worst end up with scenarios like this.

    The boys done well.
    The oppo did well.
    the ref did well.
    The fans did well.
    The bus driver did well.
    The tea ladies did well.
    The TV people did well.
    The radio people did well.
    My alarm clock did well.

    Thanks Sonja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    You miss the point. Once the question was asked and answered. Move on. She did not, she kept on about it. The fact that she did not get the reply she wanted is not the point.

    There were ways shoe could have invited replies. That is if she'd been clever enough. Sadly she was not clever enough
    yes, she could have / should have moved on more quickly. Is that the top and bottom of the problem ? it hardly justifies all the fuss....

    Journalist in 'doesn't get an answer so repeats question' shock.


    the article I posted from the times showed how repeating the question two days before was a very successful technique for SM : it drew a decent answer from OF, to a question he initially dead-batted, but when asked a third time produced a good answer. That time it worked. Obviosuly you read the article, so you saw that.

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    That it worked on another occasion doe not make it a good idea. Especially in the emotional aftermath of a loss.

    I think I've already said that the attacks went beyond reasonable but keep beating the drum if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    yes, she could have / should have moved on more quickly. Is that the top and bottom of the problem ? it hardly justifies all the fuss....

    Journalist in 'doesn't get an answer so repeats question' shock.


    the article I posted from the times showed how repeating the question two days before was a very successful technique for SM : it drew a decent answer from OF, to a question he initially dead-batted, but when asked a third time produced a good answer. That time it worked. Obviosuly you read the article, so you saw that.
    If a journalist can't apply context clues - that works in situation A, with question A might not work in situation B with question B - they need to go get some more training.

    What happens in a pre match presser should not provide a template for how to conduct a post match interview. To suggest that it should - as you and The Times seem to be doing - is false equivalence and frankly stupid.
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    Default Re: Sonja drama

    Still so much to say about an article you haven't read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    England captains and coaches should be free to discuss reffing errors, and trusted to discuss them calmly and without going off on one. Not gagged.
    Maybe they should, but not straight after the game.
    We have a 30 minute cooling off period before talking to referees for a reason.
    The same should apply in talking "about" the referee IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Still so much to say about an article you haven't read.
    I suggest you re-read post 85 and then reconsider your response and you then apologise!

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