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    Default Re: Head clash, with force, "accidental" = no card? women's 6N

    Quote Originally Posted by Balones View Post
    That’s why I said my previous post.
    Yes I know and I agree with you, but this goes into a bit more depth.
    Including what the definition of foul play is (in the context of head on head collisions).

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    Default Re: Head clash, with force, "accidental" = no card? women's 6N

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Good advice here. After the initial presentation he talks about how to handle this in the community game with just one look at the incident.

    https://jwp.io/s/LMstgeFX
    Agree, at one point Wayne talks about using the facts you have available (from where you are, what you see, etc) and importantly not filling in the gaps. So if you're not sure that was direct to the head (might have have been indirect) then yellow not red etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Agree, at one point Wayne talks about using the facts you have available (from where you are, what you see, etc) and importantly not filling in the gaps. So if you're not sure that was direct to the head (might have have been indirect) then yellow not red etc.
    I think at our level the old adage still works. You know a Red when you see it. If you're debating it with yourself then it's a Yellow.

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    Default Re: Head clash, with force, "accidental" = no card? women's 6N

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    I think at our level the old adage still works. You know a Red when you see it. If you're debating it with yourself then it's a Yellow.
    Quite, you're probably going through the same mental decision making process to get to that conclusion. The only real thing that probably has to change - in the name of consistency - is your communication of the decision, if you do that according to the stages and trigger words in the new framework / refs on tele do then it's an easier sell and less argument. If yellow not red then communicate that using the new shiny buzz words (change of height / direction / indirect etc)/

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    Default Re: Head clash, with force, "accidental" = no card? women's 6N

    I like the new word he has introduced : avoidable
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: Head clash, with force, "accidental" = no card? women's 6N

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    I like the new word he has introduced : avoidable
    Snap, it means far closer to what they want us to achieve than ‘accidental’ - which is part of what started this thread.

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