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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    Seriously?
    Read Flish's post.

    You only go under the posts when the dust has settled on the incident. That is surely PT 101
    shrug - my question was prompted by watching Luke Pearce on TV running away from the action ... in order to award a PT...

    I think that's quite normal, I'll watch out for it going forward

    But I think you are rather agreeing with me though: we agree that when awarding a PT, we DON'T generally don't want to be running away from the action to do it.

    So why do we have a Law requiring exactly that?

    Your answer is 'doesn't matter - just ignore the requirement for a while'
    My answer is 'change the Law so that a PT can be awarded anywhere along the goal line'

    My suggestion wouldn't have worked when a conversion was necessary, it was the conversion (I reckon) that was the original reason for going under the posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    shrug - my question was prompted by watching Luke Pearce on TV running away from the action ... in order to award a PT...

    I think that's quite normal, I'll watch out for it going forward
    fair enough for showbiz rugby with TMOs, citing chappies and the like. In the weeds, best do as others have suggested IMO
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    In the weeds, best do as others have suggested IMO
    Yes, seems we all agree that it's NOT a good idea to run off under the posts, and so many of us don't do it.

    hence my OP: the Law should be change to remove the requirement to run off under the post

    (not really very controversial!)
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    But you are selling your decisions not just to the thrity on the pitchbut to those on the touch lines. Even f you only have the traditions two dads and a man aand a dog - they deserve to know what is happening. Getting used to making big clear signals, including the secondary signals helps when moving up the pyramid where you will have larger crowds - the mums come along as well and both bring their dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    shrug - my question was prompted by watching Luke Pearce on TV running away from the action ... in order to award a PT...

    I think that's quite normal, I'll watch out for it going forward

    But I think you are rather agreeing with me though: we agree that when awarding a PT, we DON'T generally don't want to be running away from the action to do it.

    So why do we have a Law requiring exactly that?

    Your answer is 'doesn't matter - just ignore the requirement for a while'
    My answer is 'change the Law so that a PT can be awarded anywhere along the goal line'

    My suggestion wouldn't have worked when a conversion was necessary, it was the conversion (I reckon) that was the original reason for going under the posts.
    Muy answer is bot ignore. YOu blow for the offence DEal with the IMMEDIATE situation. THEN when all is calm you go under the posts. IT is simple. Unless, of course you want to create problems that are not there.

    Luke was wrong to ignore a situation that could flare up IF he left a potential flash point develop unobserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camquin View Post
    But you are selling your decisions not just to the thrity on the pitchbut to those on the touch lines. Even f you only have the traditions two dads and a man aand a dog - they deserve to know what is happening. Getting used to making big clear signals, including the secondary signals helps when moving up the pyramid where you will have larger crowds - the mums come along as well and both bring their dogs.
    EXACTLY MY POINT

    from a game management point of view, when awarding a PT, very often you really would be best off remaining close to the action, to manage any fall out.

    however - to provide a clear signal you have to run off under the posts!


    So I am suggesting that we could remove this conflict by changing the signal..

    A PT could be awarded anywhere along the goal line. If it wasn't immediately clear to the crowd, the absence of a conversion would show it. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post


    So I am suggesting that we could remove this conflict by changing the signal..
    WADR I'd suggest this is not rugby's biggest issue. PTs are quite infrequent
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    WADR I'd suggest this is not rugby's biggest issue. PTs are quite infrequent
    i would certainly agree that it's not rugby's biggest issue

    has anyone said it was?

    I don't think the forum is restricted to discussing only rugby's biggest issue?

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    that was my polite way of saying it's not really an issue at all
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    No that there is no longer a conversion, we should get rid of the need to run over to the posts to award a PT.

    I don't like the way the ref has to run away at what can sometimes be rather a flashpoint situation .....
    Is it simply convention? As a penalty try is usually awarded in the Field of Play, why cannot a referee signal the award of a penalty try at the place of infringement? It should be obvious to the crowd that it's a penalty try as everyone trots back for the re-start.

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