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    "A Penalty Try IS a Penalty Try" no choice. I have a 'Get it right" clause in my contract.
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    In answer to the OP

    Yes the ref has to run under the posts to signal a penalty try. It tells everyone that there wont be a conversion required and more importantly that the Ref has seen whatever skulduggery took place.

    The bit about running away from an incident is just smoke screen, the ref can separate the teams, deal with the incident, issue any cards and signal the try as the final act once everything else is dealt with. On the pitch he can tell the team captains there is a penalty try coming so they know what's happening in advance. The signal under the posts is mainly for the benefit of the spectators.

    This is something that used to be called Referee Protection. If everyone knows what happening it protects you from any flak, which mainly comes from people NOT knowing what's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    In answer to the OP

    Yes the ref has to run under the posts to signal a penalty try. It tells everyone that there wont be a conversion required and more importantly that the Ref has seen whatever skulduggery took place.

    The bit about running away from an incident is just smoke screen, the ref can separate the teams, deal with the incident, issue any cards and signal the try as the final act once everything else is dealt with. On the pitch he can tell the team captains there is a penalty try coming so they know what's happening in advance. The signal under the posts is mainly for the benefit of the spectators.

    This is something that used to be called Referee Protection. If everyone knows what happening it protects you from any flak, which mainly comes from people NOT knowing what's happening.
    Exactly as stated earlier in the thread :

    Quote Originally Posted by Camquin

    Moving under the posts is conventionally how you indicate to the crowd it is a penalty try, but you can whistle, deal with any potential flare up and then go under the posts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Spot on. Should have been the approach when ther was a conversion required. NEVER leave the potential flashpoint unobserved.
    Last edited by Marc Wakeham; 18-05-21 at 12:05.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post

    ................flak, which mainly comes from people NOT knowing what's happening.
    And also from people who don't know what's supposed to be happening! !

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    well I think we all strongly agree that running away at a critical moment is a poor idea.

    but I am in a minority when I say that the Law that requires the ref to run off could be reconsidered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    ...but I am in a minority when I say that the Law that requires the ref to run off could be reconsidered.
    I think more to the point the law doesn't require the ref to "run off" at all.
    It requires him to signal the penalty try, but doesn't stipulate it has to be done straight away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    ...but I am in a minority when I say that the Law that requires the ref to run off could be reconsidered.
    That is because the law requires no such thing. You are making things up to suit your narrative again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    I think more to the point the law doesn't require the ref to "run off" at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
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    Yes the ref has to run under the posts to signal a penalty try. .

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    and as I said earlier --

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    shrug - my question was prompted by watching Luke Pearce on TV running away from the action ... in order to award a PT...
    anyway --- it was only an idle thought (not a 'narrative' Marc) . I thought a harmless idea, no big deal.
    Last edited by crossref; 19-05-21 at 13:05.

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    Whether Luke Pearce was "running away" does not mean that referees are required to " run off". So either you know that but choose the ignore the truth. OR you are failing to grasp something basic.

    I will let you decide which one it is.

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    presumabkly just becasue Luke Pearce does it doesnt mean its right ?

    aside from having two Ars and a TMO with video to refer to if boys/girls will be boys/girls

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