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    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    defender = member of the team not in possession? Not officially defined but a reasonable understanding
    Yes indeed, and defending team is generally used to mean the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flish View Post
    Have to assume so, we were discussing it at training tonight (Level 6/7 standard players) and no one could realistically see how you’d be hitting the lower legs with a legitimate clear out, you had to be in at the side, or maybe driving across in such a way that’s going to paint a similar picture
    The gator roll where the clearer-outer lands on the jacklers leg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    I don't think in practice you'd call a maul immediately, you'd let a dynamic situation breath for a few seconds to see if it could be a tackle.

    I think the latched player is entitled to the space and wouldn't be obstructing unless they changed their line to make contact with a potential tackler.
    Not accordiong to the Law Lords who answered this in a question about sacking in a lineout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Yes indeed, and defending team is generally used to mean the same thing
    Generally, except in rugby where it is differently defined, do keep up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimonSmith View Post
    Not accordiong to the Law Lords who answered this in a question about sacking in a lineout.
    not sure what law Lords said and in what context but thepercy's comment makes sense. Otherwise a ball carrier and latched team mate could never be tackled without collapsing a maul
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    Default Re: The Times - new laws

    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    The gator roll where the clearer-outer lands on the jacklers leg?
    Is that covered here though (I’m not sure what the example videos are saying when they talk about levering, is this ok or not?) as a croc roll doesn’t target or directly put weight on the lower limbs (first video example) but it can end up causing an injury (the white v blue example) where the roller (unintentionally) landed on whites legs while attempting to roll - are they saying that’s a penalty now?

    Not clear to me where they are going with croc rolls, would have been easier to directly discourage if that was the intention I think

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    I think we are all making the same point
    "Defending" is defined as being in your own half
    Yet in practice is most often used to mean "not in possession"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    not sure what law Lords said and in what context but thepercy's comment makes sense. Otherwise a ball carrier and latched team mate could never be tackled without collapsing a maul
    3. During a lineout, the players who won the ball from a maul but no opponent goes to join this group of players.
    a. Does this group of players constitute a maul?
    b. Can an opponent tackle the ball carrier?
    c. Does the ball carrier have to be the lead player?


    3. (a) It is not a maul by definition.
    3. (b) Yes
    3. (c) Yes otherwise it is obstruction


    Interpretations after that were that a tacklle under the waist constituted a tackle and not a mul (by definition). Binding above the waist would create the maul (again, by definition)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepercy View Post
    Interesting question posed in another forum:

    Does the 50/22 law apply to kickoffs/restart kicks that go indirectly into touch inside the 22?
    The answer has to be yes because there is no provision in the new law quoted to exempt kick off's and restarts (as there is in some of the other new law wording).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    The answer has to be yes because there is no provision in the new law quoted to exempt kick off's and restarts (as there is in some of the other new law wording).
    Which neatly allows for several recent threads to be tied together. It therefore seems sensible for the referee to position him/herself on the half-way line for the restart, rather than a point where the ball may be expected to land so that they can judge whether the ball, but not necessarily the kicker's feet, was over the plane of the half-way line in order to decide whether the 50-22 law applies should the ball go indirectly to touch in the defending sides 22 from the kick-off. Glad that's cleared all that up then!

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