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    Quote Originally Posted by Camquin View Post

    However, in the hypothetical case. Lets say that due to Green 9 simulating an injury, Red 4 is sent off. The panel sits, reviews the evidence, and decides to recind the card. Could it then cite green 9, even though the usual citing period had passed?
    Probably not given the time factor. But even if they could, only if they thought the simulation was worth a RC on its own. Highly unlikely I'd have thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    strikes me as a pretty flawed process.

    4 match officials say one thing and a judiciary dude overrules them and thrown them under the bus. I wonder if the ref now has right of appeal?

    Or maybe the TMO should be replaced by the judiciary dude.
    Better yet, give TMO one job, was the ball cleanly grounded by a player in the field of play. No foul play, no going back to prior phases, no.obstructions ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    strikes me as a pretty flawed process.

    4 match officials say one thing and a judiciary dude overrules them and thrown them under the bus. I wonder if the ref now has right of appeal?
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    4 match officials and the player himself! said it was a RC, and the judiciary dudes overturn them

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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    4 match officials and the player himself! said it was a RC, and the judiciary dudes overturn them
    Best bet is always admit the charge. I've got plenty of guys off at the judiciary with a "send off sufficient" or "no case to answer" after they have admitted something happened. Managed to get a ref censured in one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerCraig View Post
    Best bet is always admit the charge. I've got plenty of guys off at the judiciary with a "send off sufficient" or "no case to answer" after they have admitted something happened. Managed to get a ref censured in one of them.
    if the player admits the charge, then I don't see how a panel can conclude 'no case to answer' who presented the case? why would the case be presented?

    Normally if a player admits a charge, the panel will go straight to considering the sanction and the best outcome for the player is sending-off-sufficient

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    If I was the Gold player, I am almost forced to admit the charge. There is no possibility of misidentification.
    All he can say is, I was trying for a good tackle, I put my arms up to wrap, I thought I had got low enough, it was an honest mistake. I am terribly sorry.

    The panel has taken a look and gone, we cannot see any contact with the head. there is no foul play here.

    The problem is there is no margin between, play on and red card.

    Which is why there is discussion of bringing the legal tackle height down to to the line of the nipples.

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    But I think that would all go to mitigation and lower sanction

    If the player accepts it is a RC offence, then a panel does not normally consider whether it really was, they just go straight to considering a sanction

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    As I understand it, the player was prepared to admit the offence, but the union fought it.
    They were able to show there was no clear evidence of head contact.

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    Basically I can’t understand how the match officials couldn’t see that the ball carrier was going down when he was ‘hit’. It was a YC all day long for me and normally I’m in the ‘flog em and hang them’ camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balones View Post
    Basically I can’t understand how the match officials couldn’t see that the ball carrier was going down when he was ‘hit’. It was a YC all day long for me and normally I’m in the ‘flog em and hang them’ camp.
    Blue #8 braced for impact. I would not consider that as a "change of height" mitigating aspect
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