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    Default 50/22 from a FK

    At my society’s meeting, the question came up of whether a FK could be kicked for a 50/22, assuming the mark was at or behind the halfway.

    My inclination is yes, but has this come up for anyone?

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by smeagol View Post
    At my society’s meeting, the question came up of whether a FK could be kicked for a 50/22, assuming the mark was at or behind the halfway.

    My inclination is yes, but has this come up for anyone?
    No....from open play only.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Does that mean you could tap it to yourself and kick it or does there need to be a phase of play? Would a single pass be sufficient to constitute open play?

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Tap and go.....open play once tapped.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    No....from open play only.
    Is there something official I can cite to back this?

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    It would be pointless... you would still have to bounce the ball into touch... and that is very unlikely for a the static situation of a FK
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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by smeagol View Post
    At my society’s meeting, the question came up of whether a FK could be kicked for a 50/22, assuming the mark was at or behind the halfway.

    My inclination is yes, but has this come up for anyone?
    I think the previous answers are wrong, and the answer is yes, a free kick CAN be kicked indirectly to touch and qualify as a 50/22 kick.
    There is nothing in the law Trials that says the kick has to be from open play

    A player, in their own half, kicks the ball indirectly into touch in the opposition’s 22. Either the team did not take the ball into their half, or a tackle, ruck or maul took place within the half, or an opponent touched the ball within the half. This variation does not apply at a kick-off or any type of restart kick
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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    There is still a bit of confusion. I have been to two matches and the most asked question has been “can you kick 50/22 after a scrum”? (As long as the criteria in the GLT has been met before.)
    Secondly there is some misconception over what exactly a ‘restart kick’ is. Some officials and coaches/players are adopting the position that a free kick is a restart kick which is clearly not the case as per definitions.
    Apart from at a ‘mark’ a fee kick is given for a minor offence at a set piece. If you can’t kick after a set piece (because you won’t have met the tackle, ruck etc criteria before kicking.) then it is likely that you can’t kick 50/22 from a free kick.
    I’m open to persuasion on this one until I receive clarification from a higher source.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    i have to say it's hard to imagine a more confusing and opaque wording. How do they end up with such oddly phrased laws?

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by Decorily View Post
    Tap and go.....open play once tapped.
    Interesting. Red team pass back into their half. They knock on. They win FK at the scrum. (E.g. Early engagement.) Can Red tap/go and kick?The criteria required in law has not been met.

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