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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    Question from my presentation last night.

    So can you get a 50/22 from a Mark?

    Since a Mark is a FK and you can get a 50/22 from a FK the answer must be yes (a Mark is not a restart under the definitions).
    Since a Mark, when allowed, is a catch within your 22 from an opponent's kick, either the opponent put the ball into your half, or an opponent touched the ball within your half, so the answer must be yes.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by chbg View Post
    Since a Mark, when allowed, is a catch within your 22 from an opponent's kick, either the opponent put the ball into your half, or an opponent touched the ball within your half, so the answer must be yes.
    So red pass back into own half
    Red knock on
    Scrum and FK to Red

    Is it on ?

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    So red pass back into own half
    Red knock on
    Scrum and FK to Red

    Is it on ?
    Yes. FK is a FK.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    more importantly. If a kick is made from inside half and, ball having exploded in flight, casing goes into touch on full and bladder bounces into touch, who gets the throw?
    It’s a scrum for anything not covered by law isn’t it? Unless you can quote a law reference for an exploding pig’s bladder or similar.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    I'm confused TBH, but I'm looking forward to the TV commentators trying to explain it.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by Balones View Post
    Yes. FK is a FK.
    This. 100%.

    the scrum is irrelevant.

    its a FK.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by Balones View Post
    Yes. FK is a FK.
    I agree, but I was asking chbg, trying to winkle out his view

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    These forums are a wonderful resource for Law changers. World Rugby and Rugbyrefs: WR should use these forums. Imagine when WR decide on some new Laws, they then put it out to us to investigate, delve and comment. Not to change the intent of the new Law, that is an already given by WR, but to identify issues, inconsistencies and weak language.

    WR wouldn't have to engage, it could also disregard what it felt to be irrelevant, but it would have access to some highly experienced and often forensically inclined rugby brains. WR could wait and see what we come up with before putting the final version out there. WR doesn't need to respond or even engage, it would just take on board what it felt was useful and hone the new Laws accordingly.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    I now read it thus; In the situations described you can get a gain in ground kick from a FK and from a scrum in your half.

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    Default Re: 50/22 from a FK

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry View Post
    These forums are a wonderful resource for Law changers. World Rugby and Rugbyrefs: WR should use these forums. Imagine when WR decide on some new Laws, they then put it out to us to investigate, delve and comment. Not to change the intent of the new Law, that is an already given by WR, but to identify issues, inconsistencies and weak language.

    WR wouldn't have to engage, it could also disregard what it felt to be irrelevant, but it would have access to some highly experienced and often forensically inclined rugby brains. WR could wait and see what we come up with before putting the final version out there. WR doesn't need to respond or even engage, it would just take on board what it felt was useful and hone the new Laws accordingly.
    Indeed, and other forums exist.
    I do get the impression though that discussions that originate on this and other forums do sometimes reach WR one way or another

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