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    So what do we think of the new rugby 12s then ?
    Innovative and exciting idea that will bring IPL style glamour and excitement to our sport ?

    Or a totally unwelcome threat to the sport we love ?

    Or a yet another pointless distraction doomed to failure (rapid rugby anyone)

    Or something else ....

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    I'm hoping it's doomed to failure. There's already sevens and tens as recognized alternate formats, rugby doesn't need another one.

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    What about adding a player and having a play the ball after each tackle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    So what do we think of the new rugby 12s then ?
    Innovative and exciting idea that will bring IPL style glamour and excitement to our sport ?

    Or a totally unwelcome threat to the sport we love ?

    Or a yet another pointless distraction doomed to failure (rapid rugby anyone)

    Or something else ....

    As higlighted

    We have sevens, why on earth do we need 12s?

    The absolute last thing we need to be doing is adding more games to an already over-crowded schedule, and having more opportunities for players become fatigued and get injured. If anything, we should be reducing the number of games players are playing.
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    I think people have missed the real point of the 12s

    it's like the IPL
    - assemble the best players in the world for an auction
    - the "teams" or franchises bid for them
    - each team is like a Barbarians side
    - three week rugby fest in one location
    - lots of fun and lots of money

    Have a listen to this - toward the end I think it was the last topic they discussed.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09vwqvw

    Ugo Monye is inolved in setting up, so naturally he's talking his own book, but Danny Care is interesting about how exciting it would be as a player to get involved. He could play alongside Cheslin Kolbe, or Beauden Barret - it's easy to see how that is exciting

    Plus the money - six figure sums for three weeks?

    It's not really about a new 12 a side format
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    If the players sign up for it, I don't want to hear any moaning about being overplayed.

    This may be tricky to get off the ground with players who are centrally contracted,
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    It's not a new Idea!
    My club used to run a 12s tournament every pre-season back in the days when the English 15s season ran from Sept 1st to April 30th.
    I think that changed when league rugby was brought in.
    It was actually an inter-department competition for Vickers Shipbuilding works in Barrow-in-Furness.
    It used to be keenly contested and was an opportunity for the shop floor lads to have a pop at the office staff as well as getting the local RL lads to have a taste of RU.
    Great memories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctrainor View Post
    It's not a new Idea!
    My club used to run a 12s tournament every pre-season back in the days when the English 15s season ran from Sept 1st to April 30th.
    I think that changed when league rugby was brought in.
    It was actually an inter-department competition for Vickers Shipbuilding works in Barrow-in-Furness.
    It used to be keenly contested and was an opportunity for the shop floor lads to have a pop at the office staff as well as getting the local RL lads to have a taste of RU.
    Great memories.
    was there an auction for the players ?

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    As a commercial venture I am not against it, there's a generation of exciting players, now overlooked for Country / Lions selection, certainly entering their twilight years that this could appeal to (Danny Care the perfect example), they are probably not being overplayed any more, and the only opportunities available are abroad somewhere and the occasional Ba - Ba's game (do they pay well?).

    This may actually have benefit, if it can keep that experience within the club (occasional player, coach, mentor whatever) without commanding a high salary (and assuming the club get compensated for when they are away on 12s duty) and the players get to top up the pension, with a bit of razzle dazzle rugby as an alternative then why not? Not sure why we need a new game when 7s and 10s exist, but hey ho.

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    What change of laws do you expect to make it ‘razzle dazzle rugby’?

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