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    Default Re: Goal line DO vs Scrum 5

    It's hardly the fault of the law change that one team keeps kicking the DO straight to someone who can slot 50m drop goals. It's not much more a weakness than for the mark, if you're kicking like that. Kick shorter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    So as a Society we wrote to laws@rfu.com for clarification on Held Up.

    (some of you will accept this some of you wont, but I'm just telling you what we have been told)

    The answer, backed up by our resident PRL Referee was this.

    It depends on who took the ball into in-goal.

    Taken in by an attacker and held up = GLD
    This is regardless of who is held up with the ball (attacker or defender).
    Taken in by a defender and held up = 5m attacking scrum
    I'm sure I saw a clarification from WR that said it didn't matter, GLDO anyway... I can't find it at the moment, I'll look again later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    So as a Society we wrote to laws@rfu.com for clarification on Held Up.

    (some of you will accept this some of you wont, but I'm just telling you what we have been told)

    The answer, backed up by our resident PRL Referee was this.

    It depends on who took the ball into in-goal.

    Taken in by an attacker and held up = GLD
    This is regardless of who is held up with the ball (attacker or defender).
    Taken in by a defender and held up = 5m attacking scrum
    that's intriguing, I wonder whether it will be cascaded in any way (other than rugbyrefs.com ?
    I have heard nothing from my society about that - anyone else ?

    (There have been some facebook posts to the effect that RFU have asked WR to issue a clarification.. but that was a while ago and then went cold)


    So it is tricky for us : absent any communication from our society / rfu / wr (which obviously we would follow), what should we do on Saturday if it happens ? I think I'd go with the GLD - in the bar after I'd just rather be quoting the law book, rather then 'there's a post on rugbyrefs that says that ..'

    Luckily the scenario is pretty unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Seems to be in line with the WRU.
    is there anything public? WRU website or similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    So as a Society we wrote to laws@rfu.com for clarification on Held Up.

    (some of you will accept this some of you wont, but I'm just telling you what we have been told)

    The answer, backed up by our resident PRL Referee was this.



    It depends on who took the ball into in-goal.

    Taken in by an attacker and held up = GLD
    This is regardless of who is held up with the ball (attacker or defender).
    Taken in by a defender and held up = 5m attacking scrum
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    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    that's intriguing, I wonder whether it will be cascaded in any way (other than rugbyrefs.com ?
    I have heard nothing from my society about that - anyone else ?

    (There have been some facebook posts to the effect that RFU have asked WR to issue a clarification.. but that was a while ago and then went cold)


    So it is tricky for us : absent any communication from our society / rfu / wr (which obviously we would follow), what should we do on Saturday if it happens ? I think I'd go with the GLD - in the bar after I'd just rather be quoting the law book, rather then 'there's a post on rugbyrefs that says that ..'

    Luckily the scenario is pretty unusual.
    👍 until WR (ha!) or RFU issue general direction.
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    Default Re: Goal line DO vs Scrum 5

    My understanding is that the RFU are discussing if a Society clarification is required.
    There is always the possibility that they decide it's not a big deal and doesn't require clarification.
    It's already been said here that it may never happen.

    There may be bigger messages to get out in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil E View Post
    There may be bigger messages to get out in the world.
    Tights ;-)

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    Default Re: Goal line DO vs Scrum 5

    Well yes, that broke this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Wakeham View Post
    Well yes, that made this week.
    FTFY.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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