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    Default Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    As a coach who referees most weeks can I have clarification on this. If a player is on the floor, not from a tackle and a ball comes to him must he be on his feet to play it. I dont allow it but I saw it here and it perfectly encapsulated an issue I had previously debated.

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    Well, you wouldn't choose an u14 game as a canonical case to define a rule

    Speaking generally:
    Player on floor for any reason
    Ball happens to come to him
    He cannot play it

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Well, you wouldn't choose an u14 game as a canonical case to define a rule

    Speaking generally:
    Player on floor for any reason
    Ball happens to come to him
    He cannot play it
    I agree

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    while I agree with the sentiment of player on feet, etc in the OP situation I saw a player attempt, unsuccessfully, to catch the ball and fall over. All in one motion, he then regained & passed the ball. I would play on in this situation. It would be jobsworthy to have pinged this kid.
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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    while I agree with the sentiment of player on feet, etc in the OP situation I saw a player attempt, unsuccessfully, to catch the ball and fall over. All in one motion, he then regained & passed the ball. I would play on in this situation. It would be jobsworthy to have pinged this kid.
    Agree. This wasn't a case of being on the ground and the ball happening to come to him - this was all part of his clumsy attempt to gather the ball, so I'd play on (and for me - same if they were adults)

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    Agree, material effect was zero, was trying to do something positive and legal, maybe a quiet word later. If however there was an opponent in a position to pick the ball up then it becomes material and unfortunate.

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blindside View Post
    As a coach who referees most weeks can I have clarification on this. If a player is on the floor, not from a tackle and a ball comes to him must he be on his feet to play it.
    Law 13
    3. A player on the ground without the ball is out of the game and must:
    a. Allow opponents who are not on the ground to play or gain possession of the ball.
    b. Not play the ball.
    c. Not tackle or attempt to tackle an opponent.
    Sanction: Penalty.

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    Quote Originally Posted by crossref View Post
    Well, you wouldn't choose an u14 game as a canonical case to define a rule

    Speaking generally:
    Player on floor for any reason
    Ball happens to come to him
    He cannot play it

    I didn't care about the age (although you would referee a under 14 with different empathies) I just though what actually happened was as good an example a grey area (in my knowledge) that I had seen. My opinion was on the floor leave the ball alone, simple as that, you lost the ball and it hapened to roll back to you, you must get back to your feet. In truth if I was reffing it in a tight game... penalty, if his side was not going to win, play on, quite word. Thanks for all the replies.

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    ande FWIW the ball in the OP's clip didnt "come to" the player. It was where the same player dropped it and he just grabbed it from where he was.

    By all means follow the letter of the law about players off their feet cannot even touch the ball let alone grab it, but lets not start introducing concepts of the ball "coming to" the player in this example - because it didnt.

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    Default Re: Playing the ball while on the floor not been tackled?

    I understand wanting to avoid being a jobsworth and partially agree, but for me, it was a skill error which may have allowed the opponent the opportunity for a line break was prevented by a player on the floor who reached for the ball and played it. PK. There was a definite second effort to reach the spilled ball.
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