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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    What does "lifted it clear" mean?

    Specifically, does "clear" mean clear of the ground or clear of the scrum/ruck?
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    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    What does "lifted it clear" mean?

    Specifically, does "clear" mean clear of the ground or clear of the scrum/ruck?
    Lifted out for mine along the same lines as a ruck, if a bird could sh*t on it and its off the ground then its out.
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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    What does "lifted it clear" mean?

    Specifically, does "clear" mean clear of the ground or clear of the scrum/ruck?
    Clear of the scrum/ruck ie so that the scrum half can kick or pass
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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    Quote Originally Posted by OB.. View Post
    Clear of the scrum/ruck ie so that the scrum half can kick or pass
    that's how I do it too but it does trouble me a bit that the scrum law says something quite different
    I, for one, like Roman numerals

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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickie E View Post
    that's how I do it too but it does trouble me a bit that the scrum law says something quite different
    It's the sort of thing they could have fixed in 2017

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarrod Burton View Post
    Lifted out for mine along the same lines as a ruck, if a bird could sh*t on it and its off the ground then its out.
    So this, 1 cm off the ground is game for the picking scrumhalf to get clobbered by the oppo ?


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    I had a good debate with an experienced No.8 a few weeks ago in a lower level game.
    His scrum was going backwards so was regularly trying to pick up and complained that the scrum half can't tackle him when he is dragging the ball clear with one hand.
    I said initially "but you are not bound so technically in possession" so fair game as the ball is effectively out if you are playing it with your hand.
    Very grey area but on the day we agreed that the ball had to be clearly in his hands and off the ground before the 9 could play him.
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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    Did we all not get clear guidance on this at the Ruck a few years back?

    Lifted and clear of the legs so it could be passed either way. Give the benefit of the doubt to the 'lifter' or we'll never get the game moving again.
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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    So this, 1 cm off the ground is game for the picking scrumhalf to get clobbered by the oppo ?


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    Is that any different for a ruck?
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    Default Re: What is the definition of the playing a ball in the scrum?

    Quote Originally Posted by didds View Post
    So this, 1 cm off the ground is game for the picking scrumhalf to get clobbered by the oppo ?


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    The oppo may start the movement that would result in the SH being clobbered if he still had the ball at that stage.
    Be reasonable - do it my way.

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