Club Vets v County Vets Memorial match

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I was offered a choice - play fly half for the Alton Vets (and have a queue of flankers lined up in the County Vets XV, with a wheelchair likely) or referee it. It didn't take long to decide that one !

Wonderful match 19-19 (last minute try and missed conversion kick by Alton's fly half, who is the son of Alton's President who died last year and in whose memory match was played).

Pre-match lunch for 120 (two hours worth of spectator 'warm up') guaranteed much helpful advice from the touchline.

Over £3,000 raised for Parkinson's Society, and Hampshire 'blazers' now talking of other such matches as the players enjoyed it so much. Some current Alton 1st XV players open mouthed at just how good some of the old guys on both sides still are (all over 40 !).

From a referees angle I had to deal with

a) kick off was a punt by Leroy Angel (ex-President of RFU and a retired gentleman who last played in 1970s), from which Hampshire Vets run it back and nearly score.

b) Hampshire Vets skipper (#8) talked all the way through (he is a good friend and we played against each other many times). So did the Alton pack leader (ex-Alton playing colleague & SO19 policeman). The three of us gave a running commentary for the 300 or so spectators throughout - all with smiles and jokes.

c) Alton Vets still don't get that 'tackler away' is first requirement, before I can ping the tackled player for not releasing.

d) also they still don't realise that hands in are allowed at tackle, until the ruck is formed, but not after I call ruck / hands off !

e) one kick through, Alton full back falls on ball, Hampshire wing steps over him and tries to grab ball - loud shout of "he's got to let him up" countered by various Panel / Federation / Society assessors and Hampshire referees on touchline with "oh no he doesn't !"

e) first season post ELRA Society member playing for Alton pinged for side entry at ruck. Damn - his grading is already done.

f) first half scrums very serious with every trick I know going on in FR, plus some I couldn't spot. Quick truce negotiated at half time as someone was going to get hurt.

g) I missed a few offsides, hands in, and sealing - but no one on the pitch minded and just got on with it.

h) very little kicking, and multiple replacments for both sides - but no referee replacement ! Gasping by the end.

i) experienced Society Ref as #1 TJ and Alton Club Ref (ELRA) & Clubs Hon Sec as #2. Great job by both.

Fantastic rugby match, wife of late President really appreciated the whole day, and players hung around for hours afterwards with BBQ and live band, as the evening blurred into a beer enhanced mist.

Rugby as it should be - as was the Hampshire v Middlesex match on Saturday (20-19) for which I was 4th Official. What a weekend.
 

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Sounds great fun and great spirit (in both senses) with money raised for charity to boot! What more could you ask for? In my first game which was a vets one we had players in their fiftys -I heard a few groans as some of the older players were lifted and then lowered in the line out! The list of reffing points is very interesting. I'm going to have to think long and hard about the breakdown and the transition (complex visual info) between 'hands still allowed' and ruck forming as I enter my first full season with a certain amount of fear and trembling.
 

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I'm going to have to think long and hard about the breakdown and the transition (complex visual info) between 'hands still allowed' and ruck forming as I enter my first full season with a certain amount of fear and trembling.

Why worry ?

It is still self-policing (in the old fashioned way) down in Gloucestershire and Somerset !
 

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Why worry ?

It is still self-policing (in the old fashioned way) down in Gloucestershire and Somerset !

It's the self-policing that worries me especially when I'm the (supposed):wink: policeman!
 

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e) first season post ELRA Society member playing for Alton pinged for side entry at ruck. Damn - his grading is already done.

I do hope that your being humorous there Simon. It would be rather harsh to judge his refereeing by his playing, wel all puch thel aws to the limit when we play. :nono:
 

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I do hope that your being humorous there Simon. It would be rather harsh to judge his refereeing by his playing, wel all puch thel aws to the limit when we play. :nono:


soz should have had a :D there !
 

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Jesus Christ, look at my spelling. Must be the glandular fever I'm suffering from lol :D
 

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I thought that's how you spell in Wales :bday:Like spelling taxi-tacsi

I didn't think they did spell in Wales! I thought they just got a load of vowels and consonants and threw them up in the air, whatever landed on the sign became a word :biggrin:
 

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But they still put "Way Out" in English :confused:
 

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Just like the Irish the Welsh get their revenge on the sasenachs by creating bizarre spelling rules that we can't get our heads 'round!
 

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Though jolly decent of them to put the phonetic spelling in there as well.
 

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Welsh spelling was due to the mystical power of the druids. They had a cauldron of alphabet soup, and when presented with an item they'd strain a ladleful, and whatever was left in the strainer became the recognised spelling from thenceforward. This is why it cannot be handled phonetically. Similar to Mrs Cake reading the tea leaves and leaving her precognition on - it's all grist to the mill of a magical reputation.
 

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Welsh spelling was due to the mystical power of the druids. They had a cauldron of alphabet soup, and when presented with an item they'd strain a ladleful, and whatever was left in the strainer became the recognised spelling from thenceforward. This is why it cannot be handled phonetically. Similar to Mrs Cake reading the tea leaves and leaving her precognition on - it's all grist to the mill of a magical reputation.

So what your saying, in essence, is that all Welsh is bollocks?
For the sake of unity, I am happy to go along with that :chin:
 

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I do hope that your being humorous there Simon. It would be rather harsh to judge his refereeing by his playing, wel all puch thel aws to the limit when we play. :nono:

It's ok he only pinged me once! Like a good back row I made sure he didn't catch me twice!:wink:

And he failed to mention the recently qualified ELRA also scored 2 tries! Not that I like to blow my own trumpet but I did remind most people several times during the evening:clap: :bday: :biggrin:
 

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In New Zealand it's pronounced:-

Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu.

Similar - but you don't covered in as much phlegm! :biggrin:
 

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It's ok he only pinged me once! Like a good back row I made sure he didn't catch me twice!:wink:

And he failed to mention the recently qualified ELRA also scored 2 tries! Not that I like to blow my own trumpet but I did remind most people several times during the evening:clap: :bday: :biggrin:

I only caught you (and pinged you once) as you say.............and very good tries they were too ! Happy to say I was in-goal and not floundering on the 22m when you scored.
 

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It's ok he only pinged me once! Like a good back row I made sure he didn't catch me twice!:wink:

That's what you think. Wait until you see where you get sent next season :)
 
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